KDE File Chooser for all GTK apps

Bug #281834 reported by dotancohen on 2008-10-11
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Undecided
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Declined for Jaunty by Steve Langasek

Bug Description

While in general I do not mind using GTK application in Kubuntu, the one thing that makes using them difficult is the completely foreign GTK File Chooser. The KDE File Chooser be used instead. There are published workarounds for implementing this for most applications (Firefox and Open Office, for example) however they are beyond the scope of the naive just-use-it computer user.

dotancohen (dotancohen) wrote :

I should stress that this is a usability issue. The inconsistent File Chooser dialogs confuse users. Users expect a uniform, consistent user interface for all applications.

Waleed Hamra (w-hamra1987) wrote :

I must say i'm with Dotan on this one. it's very annoying to have such inconsistency. a person who chooses to use KDE, is using it because he thinks it's better than GNOME. he prefers KDE over GNOME means he likes QT apps, he likes how things work, and like the KDE file chooser! but unfortunately, one passes across a lot of GTK apps, and i expect that these should follow the rules and looks of my favourite DE, KDE!

dotancohen (dotancohen) wrote :

The link that usr provided (KGtk) is, by it's own description, "a quick-and-dirty LD_PRELOAD hack that allows some Gtk applications to use KDE's file dialogs when run under KDE." Therefore I agree that KGtk is a great place to start from, but more work needs to be done. Also, it should be included in Kubuntu by default.

usr (usrlp) wrote :

Confirmed then.

Changed in kubuntu-meta:
status: New → Confirmed
LindseyD. (ai279) wrote :

It's not so much that the file chooser is foreign, it's that it's clunky and not as configurable as KDE's. I'm a "naive just-use-it computer user" and I'd love to see this implemented.

On November 12, 2008 11:36:07 Melanie F. wrote:
> It's not so much that the file chooser is foreign, it's that it's clunky
> and not as configurable as KDE's. I'm a "naive just-use-it computer
> user" and I'd love to see this implemented.

I agree - if the GTK file chooser was a good as KDE's, I'd live with the
appearance. But it's really awful...
--
derek

Schmirrwurst (schmirrwurst) wrote :

The problem with the GTK file chooser is that for user coming from windows, they not only wonder why the picker is different, but also why the shortcuts are no more here...
And I must say, even for me it cost a lot of time to search for the right folder on gtk picker, when I've configured all the shortcurts I need under KDE... To manage "my places" on both is also not a good solution...

I tried to look at revu.ubuntuwire.com, to look if someone allready proposed kgtk as package, but ubuntu is currently frozen, so they won't be any kgtk under jaunty ;-(

Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

mail for discussion sent to kubuntu-devel list

Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

GTK+ should provide sensible desktop integration, not the desktop toolkit integration.

Changed in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Won't Fix
dotancohen (dotancohen) wrote :

> GTK+ should provide sensible desktop integration, not the
> desktop toolkit integration.

Please elaborate on that statement. It seems that GTK+ is the language that the application is written in, and it is up to the desktop environment to make that application fit in to the rest of the desktop. In fact, that is exactly why KDE was founded: to provide a common look and integration with the existing applications.

Expecting _every_application_ to implement every desktop's tools is ludicrous. Rather, it is up to the desktop to provide integration with the limited number of common toolkits, such as Qt and GTK.

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