"Configure Icon Sizes" Dialog is Too Small

Bug #1864112 reported by Lonnie Lee Best
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Bug Description

Kubuntu > System Settings > Icons > Icons > Configure Icon Sizes

The "Configure Icon Sizes" button should display a dialog that's wide enough to show the *entire name* of the icon-category's name (without ellipses), instead of placing priority on the dialogs width being the same width as the button you've clicked to open the dialog.

Screenshot:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/RghPw.png

To reproduce/emphasize the problem set your system fonts to a size larger than default (14pt for example).

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.10
Package: kubuntu-desktop 1.387
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.3.0-40.32-generic 5.3.18
Uname: Linux 5.3.0-40-generic x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu8.4
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: KDE
Date: Thu Feb 20 15:13:03 2020
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-03 (17 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" - Release amd64 (20191017)
ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm-256color
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set>
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: kubuntu-meta
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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Lonnie Lee Best (launchpad-startport) wrote :
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In , Lonnie Lee Best (launchpad-startport) wrote :

Created attachment 126233
Screenshot Showing Undersized Dialog for Changing Icon Sizes

System Settings > Icons > Icons > Configure Icon Sizes :

The "Configure Icon Sizes" button should display a dialog that's wide enough to show all the *full names of the icons* (without ellipses) you're able to resize, instead of placing priority on being the same width as the button you've clicked.

Screenshot: https://i.stack.imgur.com/RghPw.png

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.10
Package: kubuntu-desktop 1.387
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.3.0-40.32-generic 5.3.18
Uname: Linux 5.3.0-40-generic x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu8.4
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: KDE
Date: Thu Feb 20 15:13:03 2020
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-03 (17 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" - Release amd64 (20191017)
ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm-256color
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set>
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: kubuntu-meta
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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In , Lonnie Lee Best (launchpad-startport) wrote :
Changed in kdelibs:
importance: Unknown → Low
status: Unknown → New
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In , Nate-b (nate-b) wrote :

Cannot reproduce. The pop-up is the right size for me. Can you try out Plasma 5.18? 5.16 is EOL.

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In , Lonnie Lee Best (launchpad-startport) wrote :

Created attachment 126277
Forced DPI to 192

Hi Nate. Please see the attachment "Forced DPI to 192". This may be necessary to reproduce the issue. I run KDE on 4K monitors and it is necessary to increase DPI to 192 else GTK applications are too small for my eyes to use them.

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In , Nate-b (nate-b) wrote :

That's your problem; don't do that. :) Instead use a 2x scale factor (set on the Display and Monitor page). GTK apps will respect that when run on Plasma.

Changed in kdelibs:
status: New → Invalid
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In , Lonnie Lee Best (launchpad-startport) wrote :

Actually, my problem is your lack of empathy regarding the matter.

I have tried the desktop scaling at 2X and it worked very poorly compared to doubling the DPI. For example, Flameshot didn't work with the desktop scaling feature enabled, while it works great at a 192 DPI. Also, in my three 4K monitor setup, if I moved my mouse past the bottom edge of the bottom middle monitor, the whole desktop would scroll down as though that desktop had an additional 2160 pixels that shouldn't even be there. So your suggestions offer more bugs than the DPI solution I've discovered.

I use to be a fan of desktop scaling, but not now. I'm a fan of increasing DPI. It works better. Try it in a multiple 4K monitors setup like mine. You'll see.

The bottom line is, whether you are sympathetic or not, is that the dialog shouldn't place priority on being the exact same width of the button that's clicked. Instead it should accommodate what ever the font-size is (even if the font-size is due to a 192 DPI).

I wish you had 3 or 4 4K monitors to deal with. Until then, I don't expect to persuade you much.

Believe it or not, I report this stuff to help make KDE better. This is minor issue, but the developers need to take what I'm saying into consideration as they design these GUIs, instead of wasting the available horizontal space to ensure the dialog is not bigger than the button that was clicked to launch the dialog.

Anyway, I doubt I've persuaded you, but thanks anyways for at least reading what I've wrote.

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In , Nate-b (nate-b) wrote :

I understand that it is frustrating, for sure.

However, note that your reason for not using the official scaling system is bugginess, yet the alternative method you've chosen also has bugs (e.g. this one). Clearly these bugs are less severe than the ones you're avoiding. However it's at least important for those bugs keeping you from using the official system to be reported or else it can't improve to the point were it's adequate for your needs. If you feel the need to use a workaround in the meantime, I understand, but please file bugs on the issues that are preventing you from using the official system.

Looking at the issues you mention:

> Flameshot didn't work with the desktop scaling feature enabled, while it works
> great at a 192 DPI.
Sounds like a bug in Flameshot. Can you file it with the developer of that app?

> Also, in my three 4K monitor setup, if I moved my mouse past the bottom edge of the
> bottom middle monitor, the whole desktop would scroll down as though that desktop
> had an additional 2160 pixels that shouldn't even be there.
Wow, that sounds bizarre! I've never heard of this happening before. Can you file a bug if you haven't already?

Hope that helps!

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In , Lonnie Lee Best (launchpad-startport) wrote :

Nate,

You don't have to increase the DPI in order to reproduce this issue. All that is necessary is to increase the default font-size, as I show here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxgBJaI5yRQ

Hopefully, you agree that people should be able to increase the font-size of their desktop environment and that dialogs should be able to accommodate those larger font-sizes in a reasonable way. To me, ellipsifying should be a last resort way for dealing with larger font-sizes (especially given that there is not tool-tip to even reveal the entirety of what's been ellipsified). Utilizing available screen space should come before ellipsification. Yes, I'm making these words up as I go, but you know what I mean.

I'll take your advise on reporting those other issues as well. However, I firmly believe that what I'm reporting here is a legitimate inflexibility, (minor and petty as it seems).

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In , Nate-b (nate-b) wrote :

Aha! That's a reasonable thing to fix, since adjusting the font size is supported. :) The little dialog should definitely adjust to the font size.

Changed in kdelibs:
status: Invalid → Unknown
description: updated
summary: - Configure Icon Sizes Dialog is Too Small
+ "Configure Icon Sizes" Dialog is Too Small
description: updated
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In , Nate-b (nate-b) wrote :

*** Bug 434643 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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