knoda rejected and kexi heavily bugged

[robert leleu]

Binary package hint: kexi

Ubuntu 11.04 tried to uninstall Knoda, but since I use it for my address-book I kept it.
I tried to implement my address-book in Kexi, but Kexi is so heavily bugged that it's just impossible.
I can't see any other front-end for relational databases allowing to handle them without knowledge of SQL

Although Knoda is old and no more developped, it does work.

So I would appreciate that it be again available under Ubuntu, waiting for Kexi to debug.

[falcaf (moebius1)]

Bonsoir,

I have the same problem ; I've tried kexi but without good result (unable to import my mysql base.
Knoda work ; isn't possible to get it again in ubuntu ?

cordialement,

[Jaroslaw Staniek (staniek)]

On 2 June 2011 22:04, falcaf <email address hidden> wrote:
> Bonsoir,
>
> I have the same problem ; I've tried kexi but without good result (unable to import my mysql base.
> Knoda work ; isn't possible to get it again in ubuntu ?

If I am not mistaken, one of the requirements is that the application
has to be maintained...

--
regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
 Kexi & Calligra (kexi-project.org, identi.ca/kexi, calligra-suite.org)
 KDE Software Development Platform on MS Windows (windows.kde.org)

[robert leleu (robert-jean-leleu)]

Je la 02/06/2011 22:31-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jaroslaw Staniek
skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
> On 2 June 2011 22:04, falcaf<email address hidden> wrote:
>> Bonsoir,
>>
>> I have the same problem ; I've tried kexi but without good result (unable to import my mysql base.
>> Knoda work ; isn't possible to get it again in ubuntu ?
>
> If I am not mistaken, one of the requirements is that the application
> has to be maintained...
>
Not being programmer I am not sure of the meaning of "maintained". Is it
to prepare the relevant files to be included in a PPA ?

At the time being I'm aware of a debian whose address is
http://mirror.network.kz/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hk-classes/libhk-classes15ldbl_0.8.3-7build1_i386.deb

and I hope this is a basis for someone to "maintain" Knoda in Ubuntu, at
less as long as Kexi doesn't work properly.

This link appears in
http://ubuntu-col.blogspot.com/2009/06/gnulinux-ubuntu-9.html where is a
large and informed discussion about Kexi and Knoda. (in spanish)

[Jaroslaw Staniek (staniek)]

On 11 June 2011 10:08, robert leleu <email address hidden> wrote:
> Je la 02/06/2011 22:31-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jaroslaw Staniek
> skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
>> On 2 June 2011 22:04, falcaf<email address hidden>  wrote:
>>> Bonsoir,
>>>
>>> I have the same problem ; I've tried kexi but without good result (unable to import my mysql base.
>>> Knoda work ; isn't possible to get it again in ubuntu ?
>>
>> If I am not mistaken, one of the requirements is that the application
>> has to be maintained...
>>
> Not being programmer I am not sure of the meaning of "maintained". Is it
> to prepare the relevant files to be included in a PPA ?
>
> At the time being I'm aware of a debian whose address is
> http://mirror.network.kz/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hk-classes/libhk-classes15ldbl_0.8.3-7build1_i386.deb
>
> and I hope this is a basis for someone to "maintain" Knoda in Ubuntu, at
> less as long as Kexi doesn't work properly.

I have no notes regarding quality of knoda deployment. By maintenance
I mean the software of course not the deployment. The most recent
version of KNoda is 0.8.3 which appears to be released around December
2006 and is for KDE 3. As someone who values FOSS competition I am
rather sorry about this fact.
Please also look at the comments at [1].

Lack of update for knoda is of course no excuse for Kexi's own issues
on Ubuntu and I am
looking forward to see opportunities to cooperate more closely with
the Ubuntu team.
To be more constructive: If someone is interested in preparing Kexi
3.0 deployment in advance before Calligra 3.0 alpha is announced, we
have regular Calligra source code snapshots [2], and these include
Kexi. Updates notes for deployment are always available at
https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/entry/README.PACKAGERS

[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.hk-classes.general/317
[2] 1st snapshot:
http://www.calligra-suite.org/news/calligra-announces-first-snapshot-release/

--
regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
 Kexi & Calligra (kexi-project.org, identi.ca/kexi, calligra-suite.org)
 KDE Software Development Platform on MS Windows (windows.kde.org)

[robert leleu (robert-jean-leleu)]

Je la 11/06/2011 22:55-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jaroslaw Staniek
skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
> On 11 June 2011 10:08, robert leleu<email address hidden> wrote:
>> Je la 02/06/2011 22:31-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jaroslaw Staniek
>> skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
>>> On 2 June 2011 22:04, falcaf<email address hidden> wrote:
>>>> Bonsoir,
>>>>
>>>> I have the same problem ; I've tried kexi but without good result (unable to import my mysql base.
>>>> Knoda work ; isn't possible to get it again in ubuntu ?
>>>
>>> If I am not mistaken, one of the requirements is that the application
>>> has to be maintained...
>>>
>> Not being programmer I am not sure of the meaning of "maintained". Is it
>> to prepare the relevant files to be included in a PPA ?
>>
>> At the time being I'm aware of a debian whose address is
>> http://mirror.network.kz/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hk-classes/libhk-classes15ldbl_0.8.3-7build1_i386.deb
>>
>> and I hope this is a basis for someone to "maintain" Knoda in Ubuntu, at
>> less as long as Kexi doesn't work properly.
>
> I have no notes regarding quality of knoda deployment. By maintenance
> I mean the software of course not the deployment. The most recent
> version of KNoda is 0.8.3 which appears to be released around December
> 2006 and is for KDE 3. As someone who values FOSS competition I am
> rather sorry about this fact.
> Please also look at the comments at [1].
>
> Lack of update for knoda is of course no excuse for Kexi's own issues
> on Ubuntu and I am
> looking forward to see opportunities to cooperate more closely with
> the Ubuntu team.
> To be more constructive: If someone is interested in preparing Kexi
> 3.0 deployment in advance before Calligra 3.0 alpha is announced, we
> have regular Calligra source code snapshots [2], and these include
> Kexi. Updates notes for deployment are always available at
> https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/entry/README.PACKAGERS
>
> [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.hk-classes.general/317
> [2] 1st snapshot:
> http://www.calligra-suite.org/news/calligra-announces-first-snapshot-release/
>
Thanks for your fast answer. I took a look atcalligra-announces, and I
deduced that we have new versions (of Kexi in particular) for Ubuntu 12.04.
That's why I put a copy of this message in HK classes discussion list.
With thanks to all who work on the project.