screensaver KCM should recommend installation of screensavers

Bug #273667 reported by FriedChicken on 2008-09-23
This bug affects 2 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu)
Harald Sitter
Declined for Jaunty by Harald Sitter

Bug Description

It seems the Kubuntu team reached consensus to add update-notifier notification support to the screensaver support in order to enable users to obtain some sensible screensavers (none are shipped by default).
This ought to cause an appearance similar to what Amarok triggers (though in Amarok's case it recommends installation of media codecs ;))

Original description:
It seems as if KDE 4 hasn't got preinstalled screen savers. This could lead to confusion for some people as they get a black screen (ok, there's a mouse pointer, but that can bee overseen) after resuming from suspend/hibernate and could think that something has gone wrong.

Maybe it's a good idea to make kscreensaver a dependence or recommendation for kubuntu-desktop and choose one of them as standard screen saver to avoid the black screen.

Changed in kubuntu-meta:
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
Toni Helenius (toni-helenius) wrote :

Not even in Jaunty :( Screensavers are somewhat important to normal users. At least it is considered really basic stuff that should be there. (K)ubuntu IS a desktop linux and should serve as such.

Why don't Kubuntu team select the cream of the crop from the screensavers and include them. Or just if in a hurry, include the whole screensavers package by default.

Changed in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu):
status: New → Won't Fix
status: Won't Fix → New
Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

Here is my point of view on this. Eventually it would make sense to either have some savers on the CD by default or at least hook a notification into the configuration module, so that users can obtain them more easily.

But. I am, politically, against using a screensaver by default. No matter how simple the saver might be, it will still consume more power than the black-screen-without-any-animation. Now that might not sound like a whole lot power saving. But consider: if every PC on this planet would come without screensaver pre-selected (no matter which OS) and say every machine is in screensaver mode one hour per year...

Eitherway our options are: either use an uberfancy opengl saver (which means we need kscreensaver to at least provide a fallback and slug-detection like kwin) or we don't use one by default but ease the pain to get some good ones installed (which mostly means hooking a notification into the module, so we don't waste CD space on savers). This absolutely needs to be discussed at a Kubuntu Meeting or the Kubuntu development mailing list which means that someone should ensure it somehow ends up in either of them ;)

Changed in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Harald Sitter (apachelogger)
Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

mail for discussion sent to kubuntu-devel list

starslights (starslights) wrote :


Same for Kubuntu karmic, no screensaver are inclus

alpha 6 64 bits.

Well i don't really need but that's will make more complete, On my jaunty kubuntu are same.

my best

Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

step one: hook update-notifier into the KCM, not too intrusive but gives better usability
possible step two: select one or two fine default screenies to be shipped by default (that is if there is any good candidate and if we can/want to spare the CD space) ... this ought to be done via though.

Moving bug to kdebase-workspace for addition of update-notifier support.

affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) → kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu)
Changed in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu):
assignee: Harald Sitter (apachelogger) → nobody
status: New → Triaged
summary: - KDE 4 doesn't have preinstalled screensavers
+ screensaver KCM should recommend installation of screensavers
description: updated
Changed in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Harald Sitter (apachelogger)
Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

Needs string freeze exception.

Changed in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → In Progress
Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

Freeze exception approved as per bug #558333

I'll upload once the beta freeze is over.

In case I forget, someone please remind me to tell translators and documenters about this change ^^

Changed in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu):
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package kdebase-workspace - 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu7

kdebase-workspace (4:4.4.2-0ubuntu7) lucid; urgency=low

  [ Harald Sitter ]
  * Dont hide klipper from menu, otherwise users will find it diffcult to
    get it back if accidently the autostart was turned off.
  * Drop kubuntu_71_default_plasma_layout.diff in favor of plasma-desktop
    init script in kubuntu-default-settings
  * Add kubuntu_01_fix_dateandtimekcm.diff from upstream to fix a whole
    set of funny bugs in the date&time KCM, amongst them LP: #367164
  * Add kubuntu_02_screensaver_restricted_install.diff to recommend installation
    of kscreensaver package via k-n-h (LP: #273667)

  [ Jonathan Thomas ]
  * Add kubuntu_112_kdm_multiscreen_fix.diff, backported from upstream's 4.4
    branch. Can be dropped in 4.4.3.
  * Add kubuntu_113_kmenuedit_folder_move_fix.diff, a backport of two off-by
    one error fixes that makes moving folders in kmenuedit actually work
  * Add kubuntu_114_respect_screensaver_settings.diff from the upstraem 4.4
    branch that only enables the screensaver if it is enabled in the settings
  * Add kubuntu_115_read_compositing_settings.diff. Backport of kde svn
    revision 1109537. Fixes a crash when compositing is forced in the
    environment variables
  * Add kubuntu_116_oxygen_cursor_fix, a backport of several commits in
    B.K.O 231844. Prevents the cursor from turning into a vertical resize
    cursor after you move a window. Can be removed in 4.4.3.

  [ Jonathan Riddell ]
  * Update kubuntu_98_dbusmenu.diff from Aurelien Gateau (LP: #553685)
 -- Jonathan Riddell <email address hidden> Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:50:34 +0100

Changed in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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