KDE desktop login failure: "Could not start d-bus. Can you call qdbus?"

Bug #1304805 reported by meldroc on 2014-04-09
This bug affects 33 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
kde-workspace (Ubuntu)
Jonathan Riddell
Jonathan Riddell

Bug Description

I downloaded a round of updates using Muon in Kubuntu Trusty, on April 8, 2014, with a large number of KDE-related packages. When I logged out, and attempted to log back in, I can no longer get a KDE desktop. Instead, I get a window with the message "Could not start d-bus. Can you call qdbus?", and when I click "OK", I get returned to the login manager.

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

Changed in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
pieter k (pieterkristensen) wrote :

same here on a amd64 system.
I went into the terminal by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. From there I tried
- sudo apt-get -f install
- sudo apt-get install dbus
- sudo apt-get install dbus-qt5 (it actually installed)
- sudo apt-get install qdbus and
- sudo apt-get install dbus:amd4
none of which solved the problem

Ben (bshatt1987) wrote :

Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch)
Release: 14.04

qdbus version: 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4

What I expected to happen : Install updates, reboot and log in as usual.

What actually happened: Installed updated, rebooted and got this error upon login.

I downloaded the package 'qdbus' and tried to install it with dpkg but that didn't seem to help.
I installed lubuntu-desktop on top of the KDE so that I could log into this system.

kenzolo (vincenzo-giovinazzo91) wrote :

Same here :(

Vincent Ouwehand (4e0a8aa4) wrote :

Same here.

Tried installint qt4-default
Tried installing qt5-dbus
Tried updating kde-workspace-bin (was already up to date)

No change.

Working with KUbuntu 14.04 btw

Steve (steven-bell) wrote :

Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch)
Release: 14.04

sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get install qttools5-dev-tools
sudo apt-get install dbus
sudo apt-get install dbus-qt5 <==== Installed
sudo apt-get install qdbus
sudo apt-get install dbus:amd64
sudo apt-get install qdbus:amd64
sudo apt-get remove qdbus:i386
sudo apt-get install qt4-default
sudo apt-get install qt5-default

Lol, nothing so far...

sibe39 (sibe39) wrote :

Its a big bug !

scontin (stecontin) wrote :

I cominfirm this bug.
Please sove quickly!

[Po]lentino (polentino911) wrote :

I made a bugreport like this one at about same time ( #1304856 ) anyway ,since this one is the original one, I put here some additional info that could be useful for the devs: I logged in TTY1, run qdbus, and I got this output:

"Could not connect to D-Bus server: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11"


That informaion isn't actually helpful. You tried to run qdbus from a tty without X11 server?

If so, the essage just tells you that X11 should be started and $DISPLAY env variable should be set in order to call qdbus.

Jonathan Riddell (jr) wrote :

FIx uploaded in kde-workspace_4.11.8-0ubuntu5

Edit /usr/bin/startkde, change:

  qdbus="QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus"

to remove the quotes

  qdbus=QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus

sorry for the breakage

Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

qdbus variable in startkde is a string, should be a command sequence.

affects: qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) → kde-workspace (Ubuntu)
Changed in kde-workspace (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Jonathan Riddell (jr)
importance: Undecided → Critical
milestone: none → ubuntu-14.04
status: Confirmed → Triaged
tags: added: kubuntu
Changed in kde-workspace (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Fix Committed
Ben (bshatt1987) wrote :

Worked like a charm. Thank you!

NetBit73 (mmach) wrote :

THX Jonathan #12

Bob Treat (rptreat) wrote :

Worked here too.

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package kde-workspace - 4:4.11.8-0ubuntu5

kde-workspace (4:4.11.8-0ubuntu5) trusty; urgency=medium

  * Fix patch kubuntu_dont-force-on-path.patch, previous change
    broke log, sorry, LP: #1304805
 -- Jonathan Riddell <email address hidden> Wed, 09 Apr 2014 09:33:32 +0100

Changed in kde-workspace (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
David (daharper) wrote :

Thankyou, works here too.

Steve (steven-bell) wrote :

Thank you Jonathan!

meldroc (meldroc-gmail) wrote :

Thank you, Jonathan! The fix did the trick for me!

MrLider (dva-lider) on 2014-04-09
no longer affects: kdebase-workspace
anavarre (aurelien.navarre) wrote :

I can confirm that it works too. Thanks so much for the quick fix!

Matteo Croce (teknoraver) wrote :

it seems to me the following syntax:


in dash will execute "D" with the environment variable "A" set to "B=C", so the line:

qdbus=QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus

would run "qdbus" once, and set "qdbus" to "QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus":

$ qdbus=QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus

I'm not sure that qdbus is started properly with this fix, and I guess that startkde works now only because $qdbus now returns true, as any assignment.

Maybe I'm wrong but this patch is definitely better

Andy St.Martin (andystmartin) wrote :

It is true that removing the quotes in the line
   qdbus=QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus

Gets around "Could not start" issue. However, a better fix would be to leave the quotes in place and further down start up qdbus with an eval statment:
    qdbus="QT_SELECT=qtr qdbus"
    if eval $qdbus >/dev/null 2>/dev/null; then
Plus the other places where "$qdbus" is invoked.

Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

Nah, that would bring back another issue which was to be originally resolved by tempering with the qdbus code to begin with.

I am going to prepare a proper qdbus invocation tomorrow.

Matteo Croce (teknoraver) wrote :

what about just unsetting the variable before starting X?

Matteo Croce (teknoraver) wrote :

The fix in #12 is utterly wrong.

You can't absolutely use an unquoted space in an assignment: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/varsubn.html#EX9

The reason because it *seems* to fix is luck, the line:

qdbus=QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus

Would start "qdbus" anyway, but without the "QT_SELECT" variable and with a wrong "qdbus" variable with "QT_SELECT=qt4" as content

Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote :

I think we have already established that. The issue presented by this bug report "cannot login" is resolved, any further discussion on the way it was resolved should be done elsewhere as it just pointlessly spams people's inbox. Thanks.

Sam Azer (samazer) wrote :

FYI I had this problem today (installed some updates recently) and my system refused to login after rebooting today. Removed the double-quotes as mentioned above and it's working now. Thanks.

Carniolian (martin-raic) wrote :

Some details may have changed since April, but the problem remained. After upgrading to Trusty yesterday, I got the same unpleasant message with qdbus. In my /usr/bin/startkde file, the crucial line reads:

alias qdbus="QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus"

After removing the quotes, KDE launched successfully, but this simply means that it actually works WITHOUT qdbus! Removing the quotes makes a substantial difference! Without quotes, the command alias:
 * sets qdbus to be expanded to QT_SELECT=qt4
 * lists the alias for qdbus
Thus, the program qdbus is no longer called. With quotes, however, the command qdbus first sets $QT_SELECT to qt4 and then calls the qdbus program. It would be probably more acceptable to write:

alias qdbus="QT_SELECT=qt4; qdbus"

Though I do not exactly know the role of qdbus, I suppose that KDE may once crash when it really needs it. It may be a good idea to have it anyway. After entering qdbus in the command line, I got the following message:

qdbus: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus': No such file or directory

This all happened on my 64-bit computer. On the other hand, I have another 32-bit computer, where there were no problems with qdbus. Thus, I concluded that the qdbus library has been only written for the 32-bit architecture. As a result, my solution is:

sudo mkdir /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin
sudo chmod a+rx /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus

At least in my case, it works!

Albert_Hartl (albert-hartl) wrote :

A week before I upgraded my Desktop (64bit) to Kubuntu 14.04. When I restarted, I could and can no longer get a KDE desktop - wether my desktop with Password nor the guest-desktop. Instead, I get a window with the message "Could not start B-bus, Can you call qdbus?", and when I click "OK", I get returned to the login manager.

Jonathan Riddell (jr) wrote on 2014-04-09 (and got a few Thanks for the tip):
FIx uploaded in kde-workspace_4.11.8-0ubuntu5 (What does it mean?)
Edit /usr/bin/startkde, change:
  qdbus="QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus"
to remove the quotes
  qdbus=QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus
sorry for the breakage

But how can I edit?
With ctrl-alt-del I dont get the Terminal mode.

Michal Illich (a-list-l) wrote :

just upgraded Kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04.

- I confirm that the bug IS STILL THERE. ("could not start d-bus" message shows when you try to launch KDE, after clicking Okay it goes back to log in screen)

- also confirming than Jonathan's tip to edit /usr/bin/startkde works great

I believe it should be fixed, otherwise lots of other people will run into this bug again.

I can confirm the bug is there upgrading Kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 on a 64bit system.

I could work around with (as #29):

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus

The directory existed already.

It seems there is no qdbus for x86_64-linux-gnu available.

This bug is a absolute show stopper for anyone who isn't able to debug this problem himself! You are not able to log in, you are not able to ask the internet!

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

Changed in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Trusty):
status: New → Confirmed
MagnusPI (ipesando) wrote :


Just upgraded from kubuntu 1204 amd64 to 1404 and immediately got stuck in this bug.
Removing the parenthesis as suggested above in #12 solved the login problem.

Andrew Johnson (anj) wrote :

Solution in #32 worked for me after an upgrade like #34 and seems to explain the problem, but it's obviously a workaround.

mb74 (mrb74) wrote :

I do not understand why this bug is still present!!! I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.01.1 right after the point release. After the upgrade I couldn't start KDE because of a buggy startkde script. Yesterday I upgraded again this package and startkde is still buggy!
In line 'alias qdbus="QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus"' the double quotes have to be removed.
My question to the package maintainer: Do you read the bug reports and do you test your changes?
14.04 is an LTS release and such a grave bug must not happen.

sboyce (sboyce) wrote :

This is a big puzzle. I am fully updated on 14.04 and none of the workarounds fixes the problem.

root@sdrbox:~# ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus
ls: cannot access /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus: No such file or directory
root@sdrbox:~# ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 64920 Mar 12 2014 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus

root@sdrbox:~# dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4
libqtcore4:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4

There is no /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin directory

ii qdbus 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubunt amd64 Qt 4 D-Bus tool

root@sdrbox:~# dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4
libqtcore4:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4

ii libqtcore4:i386 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubunt i386 Qt 4 core module

sboyce (sboyce) wrote :

Just selected "KDE Plasma Workspace" at the login prompt and that fixed it.

mg (kuchinius) on 2015-02-19
affects: kde-workspace (Ubuntu Utopic) → compiz (Ubuntu Utopic)
Stephen M. Webb (bregma) on 2015-02-19
affects: compiz (Ubuntu) → kde-workspace (Ubuntu)
Changed in kde-workspace (Ubuntu):
milestone: ubuntu-14.04 → none
amichair (amichai2) wrote :

Just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04. Same bug. Workaround in comment #12 works. This should really be fixed... upgrading between LTS versions is still broken!

dmilli8 (dmilli80) wrote :

Upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10: #12 is not working for me. This is the output of /usr/bin/qdbus:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus: undefined symbol: _ZN7QString18toLocal8Bit_helperEPK5QChari

Any suggestions?

tags: added: trusty
tentonine (tentonine) wrote :

A better fix is to run:
sudo apt-get install qdbus

This will remove an existing 32-bit package and replace it with 64-bit. After running this, it worked fine for me without needing to change the quotes in startkde.

I saw this here: https://liquidat.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/short-tip-fix-qdbus-problems-during-a-kubuntu-upgrade-to-13-04/

Robert P. Goldman (rpgoldman) wrote :

I have this bug with a recently updated Kubuntu. None of the proposed solutions seems to work: I do not have the funny quoting in /usr/bin/startkde, and I am not missing the qdbus executables. I have both qdbus and qdbus-qt5 installed, both x86_64.

Nate (thedarkwolf123) wrote :
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Failed to start message bus: Failed to open "/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/dbus_contexts": No such file or directory
WARNING: starting chroot system dbus daemon failed with code 1

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