Bad default choices for Vietnamese installation
Affects | Status | Importance | Assigned to | Milestone | |
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console-setup (Ubuntu) |
Fix Released
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Undecided
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Colin Watson | ||
gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) |
Fix Released
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Medium
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Ubuntu Desktop Bugs | ||
m17n-db (Ubuntu) |
Fix Released
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Undecided
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Unassigned | ||
Bug Description
1) Using live CD Desktop i386 Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon (official one, from shipit) ;
2) From the beginning screen :
Pressing F2: Choosing Vietnamese ;
Pressing F3: keyboard Vietnam is selected by default ! Although this choice seems logic, but the Vietnam keyboard layout does not reflect the actual situation in Vietnam where almost all keyboards are of the US English type. Leaving Vietnam keyboards result in odd keys outputs that may create confusion.
3) Booting the computer with the live CD (Language Vietnamese, Keyboard US English) without problems.
4) Main bug description:
SCIM by default is configured for Vietnamese typing. But there is only one choice of Vietnamese character input mode : Viqr, which is activated by default.
The result is that when you enter any vowel followed by a point, it results in a Vietnamese accentuated character which could leads to misinterpretation and confusion (especially with typing passwords issues).
Exemple, after opening Mozilla Firefox or a Terminal, if you would type the following 5 characters "asie.", it will results in the following 4 characters "asiẹ". Then, you would need to delete the "ẹ" and do the following typing "asie", followed by pressing the right-arrow key to move forward, then pressing the "." key to get "asie.". This looks rather clumsy to me.
Comments: Viqr input mode is common among Vietnamese living out from the country. Vietnamese people living in Vietnam have other choices, mainly Telex and/or VNI input modes. The official choice from the Vietnamese government is the Telex input mode. I think that including other Vietnamese character input modes (Telex and VNI) and setting the default input mode to Telex would be appropriate. The least effort to do would be to deactivate the Viqr input mode by default.
Changed in gtk+2.0: | |
assignee: | nobody → desktop-bugs |
importance: | Undecided → Medium |
milestone: | none → ubuntu-8.04 |
status: | New → Confirmed |
Changed in gtk+2.0: | |
status: | Confirmed → Incomplete |
The VNI input and the telex input can be installed with the scim-m17n package. But I second this as 99% of mainland vietnamese would expect a straight US keyboard out of the box