Activity log for bug #1507448

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2015-10-19 05:17:01 dsainty bug added bug
2015-10-19 05:18:41 dsainty tags kubuntu
2015-10-19 05:19:04 dsainty tags kubuntu installer kubuntu
2015-10-19 05:19:25 dsainty tags installer kubuntu boot device grub installer kubuntu unbootable
2015-10-19 05:19:39 dsainty tags boot device grub installer kubuntu unbootable boot corruption device grub installer kubuntu unbootable
2015-10-19 05:46:59 dsainty description In order to test Kubuntu 14.04.3 LTS desktop hardware support on my laptop I attempted to install it (via USB stick) onto a USB external hard drive, with the plan of booting off the external drive and leaving my internal drive safely alone. I figured I could trust the installer to be sensible. What a depressingly fatal mistake that was... The internal drive is now screwed up, it drops to grub rescue if I attempt to boot off it. Manually attempting to use grub rescue seems problematic, because grub rescue doesn't like the licence on the internal drive's grub files. The external drive can't be booted either, because grub wasn't properly installed on it. This happened when asking it to do a non-manual install over the entire external drive - including formatting. If I had done a manual install I would have avoided this mess by explicitly asking it to install GRUB on the external drive. Or, if the installer had warned me what it was doing with GRUB, like it does with other file system operations, I might have been able to avoid this mess. This is obviously a really nasty bug in the installer. If it's asked to install with all normal default actions over entire disk /dev/sdX, it doesn't make sense to do that - except then screw up grub on /dev/sdY. In order to test Kubuntu 14.04.3 LTS desktop hardware support on my laptop I attempted to install it (via USB stick) onto a USB external hard drive, with the plan of booting off the external drive and leaving my internal drive safely alone. I figured I could trust the installer to be sensible. What a depressingly fatal mistake that was... The internal drive is now screwed up, it drops to grub rescue if I attempt to boot off it. Manually attempting to use grub rescue seems problematic, because grub rescue doesn't like the licence on the internal drive's grub files. The external drive can't be booted either, because grub wasn't properly installed on it. This happened when asking it to do a non-manual install over the entire external drive - including formatting. If I had done a manual install I would have avoided this mess by explicitly asking it to install GRUB on the external drive. Or, if the installer had warned me what it was doing with GRUB, like it does with other file system operations, I might have been able to avoid this mess. This is obviously a really nasty bug in the installer. If it's asked to install with all normal default actions over entire disk /dev/sdX, it doesn't make sense to do that - except then screw up grub on /dev/sdY. The explicit process was: Where would you like to install Kubuntu: Guided - use entire disk Device: SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc <Install Now> Warning: The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition #1 of SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc as ext4 partition #5 of SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc as swap NB: Conspicuously absent is any mention that the internal drive (sda) will never boot again.
2015-10-19 05:55:42 dsainty description In order to test Kubuntu 14.04.3 LTS desktop hardware support on my laptop I attempted to install it (via USB stick) onto a USB external hard drive, with the plan of booting off the external drive and leaving my internal drive safely alone. I figured I could trust the installer to be sensible. What a depressingly fatal mistake that was... The internal drive is now screwed up, it drops to grub rescue if I attempt to boot off it. Manually attempting to use grub rescue seems problematic, because grub rescue doesn't like the licence on the internal drive's grub files. The external drive can't be booted either, because grub wasn't properly installed on it. This happened when asking it to do a non-manual install over the entire external drive - including formatting. If I had done a manual install I would have avoided this mess by explicitly asking it to install GRUB on the external drive. Or, if the installer had warned me what it was doing with GRUB, like it does with other file system operations, I might have been able to avoid this mess. This is obviously a really nasty bug in the installer. If it's asked to install with all normal default actions over entire disk /dev/sdX, it doesn't make sense to do that - except then screw up grub on /dev/sdY. The explicit process was: Where would you like to install Kubuntu: Guided - use entire disk Device: SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc <Install Now> Warning: The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition #1 of SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc as ext4 partition #5 of SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc as swap NB: Conspicuously absent is any mention that the internal drive (sda) will never boot again. In order to test Kubuntu 14.04.3 LTS desktop hardware support on my laptop I attempted to install it (via USB stick) onto a USB external hard drive, with the plan of booting off the external drive and leaving my internal drive safely alone. I figured I could trust the installer to be sensible. What a depressingly fatal mistake that was... The internal drive is now screwed up, it drops to grub rescue if I attempt to boot off it. Manually attempting to use grub rescue seems problematic, because grub rescue doesn't like the licence on the internal drive's grub files. The external drive can't be booted either, because grub wasn't properly installed on it. This happened when asking it to do a non-manual install over the entire external drive - including formatting. If I had done a manual install I would have avoided this mess by explicitly asking it to install GRUB on the external drive. Or, if the installer had warned me what it was doing with GRUB, like it does with other file system operations, I might have been able to avoid this mess. This is obviously a really nasty bug in the installer. If it's asked to install with all normal default actions over entire disk /dev/sdX, it doesn't make sense to do that - except then screw up grub on /dev/sdY. The explicit process was:     Where would you like to install Kubuntu: Guided - use entire disk     Device: SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc     <Install Now> Warning:     The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc     The following partitions are going to be formatted:     partition #1 of SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc as ext4     partition #5 of SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdc as swap NB: Conspicuously absent is any mention that the internal drive (sda) will never boot again. This is a repeated pass through the steps for the purposes of reporting the bug. However, I'm pretty sure the first time I did this it ALSO told me it'd format the swap partition on sda. For some reason that is not reported here. Although I wasn't happy it wanted to touch sda, at the same time it seemed relatively harmless, so I let it slide. I mention it just in case it's relevant, though I guess the most likely bug is just poor decision making on where grub is installed.
2015-10-19 08:17:30 Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot tags boot corruption device grub installer kubuntu unbootable boot bot-comment corruption device grub installer kubuntu unbootable
2015-10-19 08:29:13 dsainty affects ubuntu ubiquity (Ubuntu)
2016-06-30 02:56:38 Launchpad Janitor ubiquity (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2016-06-30 16:14:21 Flames_in_Paradise bug task added grub-installer (Ubuntu)
2016-11-07 01:41:49 Michael bug added subscriber Michael