Activity log for bug #234111

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2008-05-22 19:13:52 Tom Wood bug added bug
2008-05-24 09:46:39 Matthew Hawkins marked as duplicate 19775
2008-07-30 22:16:21 Rainer B description Binary package hint: gnome-system-tools Note: I have encountered these problems on each machine on which I've installed Hardy where I have a dual-NIC machine and I elect to use the eth1 as the only active NIC. These problems occur on a freshly installed Hardy box with two NICs: eth0 is onboard and unused, eth1 is a PCI-based NIC and is the one that is connected to the LAN. /etc/hosts immediately after the installation contains the following (ignoring the IPv6 stuff): 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 boxname I am assuming that "boxname" is under 127.0.1.1 because eth1 is the active NIC. I am not sure about this. At this point in network-manager under Connections I add the appropriate static IP address to eth1. This works as evidenced by changes made to /etc/network/interfaces and the output from ifconfig -a. Setting the domain name under the general tab in network-admin changes /etc/hosts to the following: 127.0.0.1 localhost boxname.example.com 127.0.1.1 boxname.example.com Any attempts at putting boxname in the hosts file using network-admin's host tab result in "boxname.example.com" being put in the file instead. Using network-admin, there is no way to add boxname as a non-FQDN name in /etc/hosts as an alias to either localhost (127.0.0.1) or boxname.example.com (127.0.1.1). I consider appending the domain name wrong in this context, in that it only appends the domain name for boxname. Any other host that I define an address for in this manner does not automatically have the domain name appended. Attempting a sudo at this point: sudo: unable to resolve host boxname Any gksudo attempt hangs indefinitely. Checking /etc/resolv.conf shows that it is correct: domain example.com nameserver 10.11.12.13 "hostname" returns the non-FQDN hostname. pinging the non-FQDN hostname results in ping: unknown host boxname pinging boxname.example.com is successful, however. So is pinging the static IP address I assigned to eth1. I cannot ping any other machines by name or by IP address, however, even though ifconfig eth1 shows that the interface is up. /etc/nsswitch.conf indicates that the hosts file is to be used before DNS for hostname resolution. This works only for hostnames not associated with the loopback addresses. However, pings do not work to these non-local names, even though their addresses are resolved from the hosts file. Another interesting note: eth0 is up, even though it's not configured in my case. There's no way to switch it off (ifconfig down) with network-manager either. Unchecking "roaming mode" requires some level of configuration be done to the interface, which I don't want/need to do. I merely want it down. My observations are that there are several issues that could be resolved simply by two things: First, assign the FQDN and it's non-FQDN both to the 127.0.0.1 loopback interface, not the 127.0.1.1. Second, any network interface should be able to be disabled via network-manager. My fix in a previous instance for these problems was to disable the unused onboard NIC in the BIOS and fixing /etc/hosts and /etc/network/interfaces to reflect the now single-NIC (eth0) configuration. I'd rather work through a configuration fix for this without the BIOS manipulation. This would probably involve rebooting the machine into recovery mode, hand editing /etc/hosts with the non-FQDN name of the machine associated with 127.0.0.1 (not 127.0.1.1) and possibly hand editing /etc/network/interfaces to make sure that eth0 is down at boot. Binary package hint: gnome-system-tools Note: I have encountered these problems on each machine on which I've installed Hardy where I have a dual-NIC machine and I elect to use the eth1 as the only active NIC. These problems occur on a freshly installed Hardy box with two NICs: eth0 is onboard and unused, eth1 is a PCI-based NIC and is the one that is connected to the LAN. /etc/hosts immediately after the installation contains the following (ignoring the IPv6 stuff): 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 boxname I am assuming that "boxname" is under 127.0.1.1 because eth1 is the active NIC. I am not sure about this. At this point in network-manager under Connections I add the appropriate static IP address to eth1. This works as evidenced by changes made to /etc/network/interfaces and the output from ifconfig -a. Setting the domain name under the general tab in network-admin changes /etc/hosts to the following: 127.0.0.1 localhost boxname.example.com 127.0.1.1 boxname.example.com Any attempts at putting boxname in the hosts file using network-admin's host tab result in "boxname.example.com" being put in the file instead. Using network-admin, there is no way to add boxname as a non-FQDN name in /etc/hosts as an alias to either localhost (127.0.0.1) or boxname.example.com (127.0.1.1). I consider appending the domain name wrong in this context, in that it only appends the domain name for boxname. Any other host that I define an address for in this manner does not automatically have the domain name appended. Attempting a sudo at this point: sudo: unable to resolve host boxname Any gksudo attempt hangs indefinitely. Checking /etc/resolv.conf shows that it is correct: domain example.com nameserver 10.11.12.13 "hostname" returns the non-FQDN hostname. pinging the non-FQDN hostname results in ping: unknown host boxname pinging boxname.example.com is successful, however. So is pinging the static IP address I assigned to eth1. I cannot ping any other machines by name or by IP address, however, even though ifconfig eth1 shows that the interface is up. /etc/nsswitch.conf indicates that the hosts file is to be used before DNS for hostname resolution. This works only for hostnames not associated with the loopback addresses. However, pings do not work to these non-local names, even though their addresses are resolved from the hosts file. Another interesting note: eth0 is up, even though it's not configured in my case. There's no way to switch it off (ifconfig down) with network-manager either. Unchecking "roaming mode" requires some level of configuration be done to the interface, which I don't want/need to do. I merely want it down. My observations are that there are several issues that could be resolved simply by two things: First, assign the FQDN and it's non-FQDN both to the 127.0.0.1 loopback interface, not the 127.0.1.1. Second, any network interface should be able to be disabled via network-manager. My fix in a previous instance for these problems was to disable the unused onboard NIC in the BIOS and fixing /etc/hosts and /etc/network/interfaces to reflect the now single-NIC (eth0) configuration. I'd rather work through a configuration fix for this without the BIOS manipulation. This would probably involve rebooting the machine into recovery mode, hand editing /etc/hosts with the non-FQDN name of the machine associated with 127.0.0.1 (not 127.0.1.1) and possibly hand editing /etc/network/interfaces to make sure that eth0 is down at boot. -------- Just a hint to avoid manipulating BIOS: For people suffering of not being able to sudo, you may follow this procedure: In the network manager, General Tab, delete the Domain Name. Clicking on Tab Host saves the /etc/hosts, having the proper entry again. Open now a terminal and do "sudo bash", which opens a shell with root rights. Go back to Network Manager and put the proper domain name back, close it. Now in the new shell, edit the /etc/hosts and delete the domain part from the 127.0.0.1 entry Rainer
2009-01-05 17:19:20 goto changed duplicate marker 19775 32906