| 2008-05-26 02:20:28 |
PowerUser |
bug |
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| 2008-05-26 02:23:34 |
PowerUser |
description |
Ubuntu (x64 version).Gnome based desktop(pretty default Ubuntu).
Bug is awfully simple.When some GUI app has hanged there is no simple and evident way to kill it.
Ctrl-Alt-Del offers a bunch of shutdown and system options.Unfortunately all good things EXCEPT starting task manager.
At very best user will find task manager in quite unevident place: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
Also I was not able to find in timely manner if there is any keyboard shortcut to run task manager and\or if it can be changed.In KDE and Kubuntu at least Ctrl-Alt-Del or any other hotkey can be assigned to starting task manager (ksysguard).However not so simple, too.
Expected behavior:
There should be easy, evident and quite stable (in sense of application failures) way to run task managers in both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
Task manager and method of it's starting should not hope other apps are behave fair, etc.So method of starting shoule be reliable and easy, window should be unconditionally on top of all others.
Kubuntu can acheive all this due to great KDE flexibility with some manual configuration (though you have to configure keyboard shortcut to run ksysguard and "above others" enforcement yourself but KDE at least allows all this).
In Ubuntu I found no convenient and evident way to kill hanged task.Actually when using task manager I will not expect that hanged or misbehaving app will be fair allow me to enter system menu, walk it and start task manager and that app for example not tries to be "above others" itself.
In short, there should be some simple and "die-hard" method to run task manager and it should try to obtain boosted priority and draw winbdows above others to survive even if some app misbehaves in unfair manner. |
Ubuntu (x64 version).Gnome based desktop(pretty default Ubuntu).
Bug is awfully simple.When some GUI app has hanged there is no simple and evident way to kill it.
Ctrl-Alt-Del offers a bunch of shutdown and system options.Unfortunately all good things EXCEPT starting task manager.
At very best user will find task manager in quite unevident place: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
Also I was not able to find in timely manner if there is any keyboard shortcut to run task manager and\or if it can be changed.In KDE and Kubuntu at least Ctrl-Alt-Del or any other hotkey can be assigned to starting task manager (ksysguard).However not so simple, too.
Expected behavior:
There should be easy, evident and quite stable (in sense of application failures) way to run task managers in both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
Task manager and method of it's starting should not hope other apps are behave fair, etc.So method of starting shoule be reliable and easy, window should be unconditionally on top of all others.
Kubuntu can acheive all this due to great KDE flexibility with some manual configuration (though you have to configure keyboard shortcut to run ksysguard and "above others" enforcement yourself but KDE at least allows all this).
In Ubuntu I found no convenient and evident way to kill hanged task.Actually when using task manager I will not expect that hanged or misbehaving app will be fair enough to allow me to enter system menu, walk it and start task manager and that failing app for example does not tries to be "above of others" itself.
In short, there should be some simple and "die-hard" method to run task manager and it should try to obtain boosted priority and draw winbdows above others to survive even if some app misbehaves in unfair manner. |
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| 2008-08-13 16:01:26 |
Pedro Villavicencio |
gnome-system-monitor: importance |
Undecided |
Wishlist |
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| 2008-08-13 16:01:26 |
Pedro Villavicencio |
gnome-system-monitor: statusexplanation |
I suggest this is a wishlist item (unless there's a shortcut I don't know about).
Whether any shortcut should work the same way as MS Windows, to make new users feel at home, is debatable. |
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| 2008-09-02 14:07:29 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: status |
New |
Invalid |
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| 2008-09-02 14:07:29 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: statusexplanation |
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Thanks for the bug report. This particular bug has already been reported, but feel free to report any other bugs you find. |
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| 2008-09-02 18:20:38 |
Przemek K. |
gnome-system-monitor: status |
Invalid |
Confirmed |
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| 2008-09-02 18:20:38 |
Przemek K. |
gnome-system-monitor: statusexplanation |
Thanks for the bug report. This particular bug has already been reported, but feel free to report any other bugs you find. |
Don't mark a bug as invalid without a good reason. It doesn't matter that bug #41186 is similar, it's not the same! Besides, marking bugs as duplicates of bugs which are duplicates itselves is not a good idea either (and Launchpad won't allow you to do that). |
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| 2008-09-02 20:43:52 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: status |
Confirmed |
Incomplete |
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| 2008-09-02 20:43:52 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: statusexplanation |
Don't mark a bug as invalid without a good reason. It doesn't matter that bug #41186 is similar, it's not the same! Besides, marking bugs as duplicates of bugs which are duplicates itselves is not a good idea either (and Launchpad won't allow you to do that). |
what change do you suggest which has not been request in an another bug already? |
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| 2008-09-03 08:21:11 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: status |
Incomplete |
Invalid |
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| 2008-09-03 08:21:11 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: statusexplanation |
what change do you suggest which has not been request in an another bug already? |
the context menus already have too many items and this function is not used enough to add one there, if you add a system monitor applet to your configuration you can just left click on it to open the gnome-system-monitor, if you really want other changes you should discuss those on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list and get opinions |
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| 2008-09-14 21:22:24 |
PowerUser |
gnome-system-monitor: status |
Invalid |
New |
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| 2008-09-14 21:22:24 |
PowerUser |
gnome-system-monitor: statusexplanation |
the context menus already have too many items and this function is not used enough to add one there, if you add a system monitor applet to your configuration you can just left click on it to open the gnome-system-monitor, if you really want other changes you should discuss those on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list and get opinions |
Marked bug as 'New' because: mentioned bug #41186 is not the same thing. In 8.04 Ubuntu there IS reaction on ctrl-alt-del keypress - system menu appears. However it does not provides way to run task manager. Hence, it seems to be different bug. |
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| 2008-09-15 07:45:05 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: status |
New |
Invalid |
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| 2008-09-15 07:45:05 |
Sebastien Bacher |
gnome-system-monitor: statusexplanation |
Marked bug as 'New' because: mentioned bug #41186 is not the same thing. In 8.04 Ubuntu there IS reaction on ctrl-alt-del keypress - system menu appears. However it does not provides way to run task manager. Hence, it seems to be different bug. |
how the software is started is not a bug in the software, you should rather discuss that on the mailing lists |
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