save current settings during logout remembers obsolete session

[Philippe Landau]

i chose save current settings once in the logout option window
and now every time i restart into a new session, even though the checkbox is not
checked, all the windows from back then are restored,
even though they were not open anymore last time i shut down.

[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

If I understand correctly, it is working as designed. You save your session
once, and it is used for future logins until you save it again with a different
set of apps.

[Philippe Landau (lists-mailry)]

>it is working as designed. You save your session once, and it is used
>for future logins until you save it again with a different set of apps.
yes.
this is not intuitive: when i choose not to check
"save _current_ settings", i don't expect it to save _old_ settings instead.
this should be an explicit option.

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

I would say that's not a bug. He saved the session when you asked to save it,
that seems to be right ...

(In reply to comment #2)

> this is not intuitive: when i choose not to check
> "save _current_ settings", i don't expect it to save _old_ settings instead.

it doesn't save old settings, it just does nothing and keep the session you
saved before.

> this should be an explicit option.

To do what ?

You would like to delete the session when you don't choose to save the current
one ?

[Philippe Landau (lists-mailry)]

thank you for following up, Sebastien

>> this is not intuitive: when i choose not to check
>> "save _current_ settings", i don't expect it to save _old_ settings instead.
>it doesn't save old settings, it just does nothing
>and keep the session you saved before.

>> this should be an explicit option.

>To do what ?
>You would like to delete the session
>when you don't choose to save the current one ?
you see the system default is: there is no session saved.
i'm used to log on with no session saved.
then once i save a session i do not expect this to change the system default.

the current " save session" acts more like
"list current open objects in autostart from now on."
this is a nice possibilitiy, but it should be separate.

the practical reason is: if i need to continue work
on a specific session, this does not mean that i will
need the same session again and again.
i usually do not need to save any session,
which does not mean that i need a session from long ago next time again.

the confusing part comes from the double meaning of "save":
to put aside or to preserve.
currently, presented with the one option,
i do not know if what has been set aside last time
will be preserved/saved or not.
so to make it less ambiguous it would be nice
to describe the effect, adding the temporary option:

remember current session
remember current session as default

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

sorry for the delay without news on this bug. I'm not sure to get what is the
issue exactly. Do you think we could summarize that to "support for differents
sessions" ? Ie: having a "standard" session, a current one and the possibility
to save differents sessions ?

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

no reply, and I think that's adressed by
http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/ToggleDesktopModes, I'm closing this bug. Feel free
to reopen if you think there is still an issue to adress here.