Upgrade-tool is not upgrading but replacing

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Description: Ubuntu 11.10
Release: 11.10

Expected:
When I upgraded from 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) to 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) I expected to continue to work as I was used to.

What happend:
I couldn't select the Ubuntu Classic session, NOR find a menu of all applications, PLUS all my panel links were not there once I installed the gnome-session-fallback package

Conclusion:
The upgrade tool installs the new Ocelot release without any option of using my old settings, shortcuts or panels used in my previous Ubuntu Classic sessions.
This is BAD.
It's more like a new installation than an upgrade.
I'm not able to make people who are new to Ubuntu happy. There is no way they find any of the programs, games, etc. They would have to KNOW the name!
For calculator its quite obvious but for something like Excel they can't find it because Math or Open Office isn't something they'd look for.
So this upgrade is no upgrade at all if they lose the functionality.

This will lose me as Ubuntu user, and hold new users from becoming such.

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[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Thank you for your bug report, did you try to look to the small gear icon next to the login entry on the login screen?

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Ok, reading again your description:

> What happend:
> I couldn't select the Ubuntu Classic session, NOR find a menu of all applications, PLUS all my panel links were not there once I
> installed the gnome-session-fallback package

Those are somewhat GNOME upstream issues, sorry about that but we will get them on any distribution:
- gnome-panel has been ranked as a fallback session in GNOME3 and is not really maintained, the choice would be to give you gnome-shell or unity on upgrade, both are different interfaces from what you were used to and will have a somewhat clean configuration

The fact that the gnome-panel configuration is not migrated is a gnome-panel upstream decision, not something Ubuntu is reponsible for doing

> Conclusion:
> The upgrade tool installs the new Ocelot release without any option of using my old settings, shortcuts or panels used in my > previous Ubuntu Classic sessions.
> It's more like a new installation than an upgrade.

Sorry about that, linux desktops got a refresh recently that happens every few years, all your applications and program configurations are still there though, it's just the desktop ui which changed

> I'm not able to make people who are new to Ubuntu happy. There is no way they find any of the programs, games, etc. They would have to KNOW the name!
> For calculator its quite obvious but for something like Excel they can't find it because Math or Open Office isn't something they'd look for.

It's an interesting point, could you explain what is your issue to find programs? You can click on the Ubuntu logo on the left launcher, that will open the dash screen, there click on the "find extra applications" or at the bottom on the second icon that will give you the application lens. This view has filters on the top right similar to the menu categories you have and a list of all installed applications, you can basically browse them as you used to do it from there. Isn't that working for you?

Note that you don't have to know the name of an application to find it, the code look into the description and keywords as well we do plan to improve the use of keywords this cycle, but i.e looking for excel should maybe list libreoffice-calc...

> So this upgrade is no upgrade at all if they lose the functionality.
> This will lose me as Ubuntu user, and hold new users from becoming such.

What functionnality did you loose? Note that if Unity displease you, there are other desktop environment available in Ubuntu: gnome-shell, gnome-panel, xfce, lxde, kde, etc, no need to change to another system, it's easier to just install the desktop you want to try

[Paul White (paulw2u)]

Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) reached end-of-life on May 9, 2013
No reply by reporter to comments #2 or #3
11 years have now passed so closing as Invalid