"Switch off" is not valid en_US

Bug #540056 reported by Steve Langasek on 2010-03-17
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This bug affects 7 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Ayatana Ubuntu
Undecided
Unassigned
gdm (Ubuntu)
Low
Unassigned
gnome-session (Ubuntu)
Low
Unassigned
indicator-session (Ubuntu)
Low
Matthew Paul Thomas

Bug Description

Binary package hint: gnome-session

gnome-session 2.29.6-0ubuntu4 has replaced the familiar "Shut Down" with "Switch Off" in the power button menu. This is not a term that's used in en_US. if "shut down" doesn't work for some reason, then "power off" or "turn off" would be reasonable substitutes, but "switch off" is jarringly unfamiliar. Given that en_US has no translation team, I think one of these other wordings should be used as the default C locale string and "switch off" should be moved to an en_GB langpack.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: amd64
Date: Tue Mar 16 22:34:45 2010
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
LiveMediaBuild: Kubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Alpha i386 (20100315)
Package: gnome-session 2.29.92-0ubuntu1
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=(custom, user)
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-16.25-generic
SourcePackage: gnome-session
Uname: Linux 2.6.32-16-generic x86_64

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Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote :
Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

thank you for your bug, assigning to mpt since the wording is a design team recommendation

Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
Changed in gnome-session (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Low
Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Low

I'm an en_US speaker who supports this change. "Switch Off" just feels very strange, and it's not immediately obvious what it does. "Turn Off" would be the best of the alternatives--when talking about any electronic device (phones, tvs, etc.), we say "I'm going to turn off the tv."

Daniel Fore (danrabbit) wrote :

+1 for changing it to "Turn Off"

Switch off works, but its not the best translation.

Brian Murray (brian-murray) wrote :

There are some comments in bug 531846 that are relevant to this one. In particular numbers 4 through 6.

Brian Murray (brian-murray) wrote :

Doh - I meant bug 531486.

I think "Power Off" or "Power Down" would be much better descriptions than "Switch Off". "Turn off" would also work, but it's a bit colloquial. "Turn Off..." would also be kind of weird without the word "computer" or some other descriptive noun afterwards. I feel the word "Power" reminds the user that they'll be shutting their computer completely off. Agreed that "Switch Off" just sounds odd (to me it sounds very European/British) and it will not translate well, at least to U.S. users.

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package indicator-session - 0.2.6-0ubuntu1

---------------
indicator-session (0.2.6-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low

  * Upstream release 0.2.6
    ∘ Updating sessions to make guest account marked when being
      used (LP: #436030)
    ∘ String "Switch From" is miscapitalized (LP: #540265)
    ∘ Follow user switching lockdown key (LP: #504360)
    ∘ Use user avatar images in session menu (LP: #436028)
    ∘ Don't show suspend/hibernate if disabled in Policy Kit (LP: #432598)
    ∘ Lock screen when switching users (LP: #536801)
    ∘ Fix callback prototype (LP: #536990)
    ∘ Revert back to "Shut Down" instead of "Switch Off" (LP: #540056)
    ∘ Fix leaked GConf notifications
    ∘ Add GConf key for showing the "Log Out" item
    ∘ Adding the ability to specify a desktop file to have at the end
      of the menu.
    ∘ Setting up restart required notification by changing panel icon
      and icon in menus.
    ∘ Use the libindicator image helpers
    ∘ Set proper translation domain for loadable indicator
    ∘ Translation update
  * debian/control: Require libindicator 0.3.5
 -- Ted Gould <email address hidden> Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:22:41 -0500

Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
status: New → Fix Released
Luca Ferretti (elle.uca) wrote :
Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Released → New

Per my updated Lucid, "Shut Down" is appearing in the menu applet, but the dialog box that appears asking you to confirm your action still uses "Switch Off" in the window title and the button title.

Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote :

No, this correctly displays 'Shut Down' in current lucid.

Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
status: New → Fix Released
Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote :

gnome-session, however, does list 'Switch Off' in the Ctrl-Alt-Del dialogue.

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

gnome-session has been fixed already today you proably need to restart your session to have it running though

Changed in gnome-session (Ubuntu):
status: New → Fix Released
Luca Ferretti (elle.uca) wrote :

Steve, you are wrong.

The confirmation dialog still use "Switch Off" in both title and button (updated 10 seconds ago). Check the file src/dialog.c in master branch too.

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-session/trunk/annotate/head%3A/src/dialog.c

Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote :

Ah, yes; I see that now in the confirmation dialog.

And yes, after upgrading gnome-session today, the Ctrl-Alt-Del dialog is fixed.

And now I've just found another instance of this in gdm; opening a new task :/

Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Released → Triaged
Changed in gdm (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Low
status: New → Triaged
Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Steve it seems you are also not using the current gdm, that has been fixed yesterday?

Changed in gdm (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Fix Released
Jason Allen (jallen) wrote :

"Shut Down" instead of "Switch Off" is still ambiguous and unfamiliar.

Instead of reverting back, take the opportunity to correct. What are you doing by selecting that option - asking the OS to close (just as you Close all applications when clicking the X) and the computer to power off. Thus, "Power Off" is by far the most logical and obvious phrase that should be used here.

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

reverting back gives us something translated and documented where changing for something new would mean having to redo the changes for all locales and documentations which should be done earlier in a cycle

Ted Gould (ted) on 2010-03-29
Changed in indicator-session (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Fix Released
Changed in ayatana-ubuntu:
status: New → Fix Released
cmcginty (casey-mcginty) wrote :

My power menu still says "switch off" ... should I open a new bug?

cmcginty (casey-mcginty) wrote :

Sorry, it looks like a bug with apt-get not pulling the latest packages ... my lucid upgrade (5/7/10) installed version 0.2.5

cmcginty (casey-mcginty) wrote :

arggg ... nz2.archive.ubuntu.com packages are 2 months behind ... am I missing something?

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