gnome starts all startup programs at once

Bug #148605 reported by Bogdan Butnaru on 2007-10-03
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
gnome-session (Ubuntu)
Wishlist
Ubuntu Desktop Bugs

Bug Description

Gnome starts all "startup" applications at once after login. I have many applications I use virtually all the time, some of which are relatively heavyweight. This includes, for instance, Skype and Pidgin, though it could very well include Firefox too. There are many applets and tools that are installed by default, too. All of them I'd like started automatically (ie, I'll start them anyway, so why should I have to remember and do this by hand), so they're very much perfect candidates for the auto-start trick.

Of course, I can do that right now using the gnome-session-properties applet.

There's just one problem: Since Gnome starts all of them at once, immediately after log-in, I can't use my desktop for at least a minute after the login. The fact that I need these apps opened all the time _doesn't_ mean that I need them right away. Even if I did need them right away, I couldn't use them until they all start, since the startup thrashes the disk too much.

So I propose adding an option for delayed, low-priority startup. Almost none of the apps are needed right away, so it might actually make sense to use the trick for all of them.

The idea is to have a "slow-start" option. A startup application that has this enabled would (a) be started a little after startup, say 30 seconds later, when the initial disk-thrashing has stopped and the user already started working, and (b) the app would be started niced to a low priority, and raised to the normal priority 30 seconds later. The two approaches can be combined, but any of them would help by itself. Also, the low-priority processes could be staggered by 10 seconds or so, to prevent disturbing the user.

Examples of apps that can take advantage of this, in approximate order they should be started in:
- the network manager
- every communication app, like Pidgin or Skype
- some of the panel applets, like the deskbar and even the task&workspace switchers
- the power manager, print manager, and volume manager
- evolution's and other mail/alarm notifiers
- tracker, beagle and similar things

All of these are needed all the time, but not right away.

I've tried doing this (actually, just part b) by changing the start-up commands to something like 'bash -c "delay 30; pidgin', and it works OK as far as starting up goes. However, the (many) bash processes are kind-of heavy-weight, and they remain active the entire session. This also tends to clog up the process list, and it's a bit confusing. Something done directly in the start-up object would work much better.

See also bug 32194.

Mackenzie Morgan (maco.m) wrote :

I like this idea. It takes too long to get from login screen to desktop with just a blank screen. The unusable time after login is like Windows.

Changed in gnome-session:
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
Pedro Villavicencio (pedro) wrote :

That's planned with the inclusion of the new GNOME Session, you can read more about it here: http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Not sure if we should keep the bug, that's not really one. That's a request for design change and should be worked upstream not from a distribution specific way, the bug tracker is also the wrong place for such discussion since almost nobody read the bugs there, should be moved to a specification or a discussion on a list rather

Changed in gnome-session:
assignee: nobody → desktop-bugs
status: New → Triaged
Didier L (l-farquaad) wrote :

I am in the same situation, but this may be linked to bug #151544 (Gnome taking too much time to load)

description: updated
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