Activity log for bug #769314

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2011-04-23 01:44:27 Robert Schroll bug added bug
2011-04-23 01:45:04 Robert Schroll bug task added unity
2011-04-23 01:52:08 Robert Schroll bug task added pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
2011-04-23 01:52:43 Robert Schroll bug task added gnome-media (Ubuntu)
2011-04-23 02:34:29 pablomme bug added subscriber pablomme
2011-04-24 07:54:52 Bilal Akhtar unity (Ubuntu): status New Invalid
2011-04-24 07:54:58 Bilal Akhtar unity: status New Invalid
2011-04-25 00:08:08 Robert Schroll description Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic or a Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7
2011-05-12 20:51:35 Juha Siltala bug added subscriber Juha Siltala
2011-05-15 12:29:13 Chris Boot bug added subscriber Chris B
2011-05-22 02:21:34 Marek Blahuš bug added subscriber Marek Blahuš
2011-06-01 06:22:15 Emily Strickland bug added subscriber Emily Strickland
2011-06-17 15:16:33 Emily Strickland branch linked lp:~hypodermia/ubuntu/oneiric/compiz/fix-for-bug-301174
2011-06-18 19:46:49 eris23 bug added subscriber eris23
2011-09-22 00:40:01 Launchpad Janitor gnome-media (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2011-09-22 00:40:01 Launchpad Janitor pulseaudio (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2011-10-31 11:20:37 Khamoon bug added subscriber Khamoon
2011-11-26 01:18:44 Rafał Krypa bug added subscriber Rafał Krypa
2012-01-22 00:50:17 Matthew Newton bug added subscriber Matthew Newton
2012-02-15 04:45:28 Pieter van der Merwe bug added subscriber Pieter van der Merwe
2012-02-15 04:45:29 cleary bug added subscriber cleary
2012-02-15 05:11:14 Billrobo bug added subscriber Billrobo
2012-03-30 00:30:38 Kevin Masaryk bug added subscriber Kevin Masaryk
2012-05-08 18:00:07 Ben Williams bug added subscriber Ben Williams
2012-05-16 17:36:39 Paddy Launch bug added subscriber Paddy Launch
2013-07-12 09:14:29 Ben Cracknell bug added subscriber Ben Cracknell
2014-04-22 17:43:14 Matthew Newton removed subscriber Matthew Newton
2014-04-28 11:09:30 Vladimir Pycha bug watch added https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=607393
2014-04-28 11:13:04 Vladimir Pycha bug added subscriber Vladimir Pycha
2014-09-29 19:52:28 Hontvári József Levente bug added subscriber Hontvári József Levente
2014-11-07 05:12:31 Daniel Hahler pulseaudio (Ubuntu): status Confirmed Triaged
2014-11-07 05:28:09 Daniel Hahler attachment added debdiff for pulseaudio: upload bell.ogg https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/769314/+attachment/4255002/+files/pulseaudio_4.0-0ubuntu23.dsc.debdiff
2014-11-07 05:31:20 Daniel Hahler pulseaudio (Ubuntu): importance Undecided High
2014-11-07 08:21:18 Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot tags patch
2015-12-14 07:22:16 Nicola Larosa pulseaudio (Ubuntu): status Triaged In Progress
2016-01-07 20:44:12 Michael J. Ford bug added subscriber Michael J. Ford
2016-07-10 04:29:06 Shaleen Jain bug added subscriber Shaleen Jain
2017-02-03 20:29:09 Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot bug added subscriber Ubuntu Sponsors Team
2017-02-03 22:19:25 Iiro Laiho summary System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) System bell completely silent because PulseAudio sample file undefined by default
2017-02-03 22:42:42 Iiro Laiho tags patch patch xenial
2017-02-03 22:46:21 Iiro Laiho description Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. (no more true in xenial) As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7
2017-02-03 23:11:57 Paddy Launch removed subscriber Paddy Launch
2017-02-04 16:52:36 Alberto Salvia Novella pulseaudio (Ubuntu): importance High Medium
2017-02-04 16:52:38 Alberto Salvia Novella gnome-media (Ubuntu): importance Undecided Medium
2017-02-04 16:52:40 Alberto Salvia Novella unity (Ubuntu): importance Undecided Medium
2017-02-04 16:52:43 Alberto Salvia Novella pulseaudio (Ubuntu): status In Progress Confirmed
2017-03-23 04:13:00 Drew R. bug added subscriber Drew Rosoff
2017-03-29 18:47:14 Michael Terry removed subscriber Ubuntu Sponsors Team
2017-03-29 18:47:19 Michael Terry bug added subscriber Michael Terry
2017-03-30 01:22:36 Launchpad Janitor pulseaudio (Ubuntu): status Confirmed Fix Released