[Translation] "Left" and "Right" must be translated differently in different contexts

Bug #1719462 reported by Doctor Rover on 2017-09-25
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This bug affects 1 person
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Ubuntu Translations
Low
Unassigned
gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
Low
Didier Roche
Bionic
Low
Didier Roche

Bug Description

In 17.10 artful in GNOME Control Center, there are two places where words "Left" and "Right" are encountered: the Mouse settings and the Dock settings. Both of the words have only one item to translate in Rosetta with indication that they are located in two different places in the sources:

"Located in ../panels/mouse/gnome-mouse-properties.ui.h:4 ../panels/ubuntu/cc-ubuntu-panel.c:417"
"Located in ../panels/mouse/gnome-mouse-properties.ui.h:5 ../panels/ubuntu/cc-ubuntu-panel.c:419"

When translating in Russian, the words "Left" and "Right" must be translated differently in these two places. One translation for both contexts leads to inconsistent and ridiculous result.
I can guess that this is also valid for some other languages, not only Russian.

Please make two independent translations in Rosetta for "Left" and "Right" in these two different contexts.

Jeremy Bicha (jbicha) wrote :

Could you provide more detail about this issue? Are you unable to use the same translation for both places?

Do you have a suggestion for the context string we could add?

Changed in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu):
status: New → Incomplete
Changed in ubuntu-translations:
status: New → Incomplete
Doctor Rover (doctor-rover) wrote :
Doctor Rover (doctor-rover) wrote :
Doctor Rover (doctor-rover) wrote :

Jeremy Bicha, thank you for giving attention to this bug report.

The situation is as follows. In the GNOME Control Center (Settings application), there are two panels involving "Left" and "Right": 1) Mouse & Touchpad; 2) Dock.
In Mouse & Touchpad panel, "Left" and "Right" correspond to Primary Button setting (settings_mouse_touchpad.png). In Dock panel, "Left" and "Right" are for Position on Screen (settings_dock.png).

In Rosetta there is only one item to translate for "Left" in these both contexts and only one item for "Right" (translations-launchpad-net_gnome-control-center.png). But in Russian, "Left" and "Right" in these two contexts (Mouse and Dock) must be translated differently.

So we need two different "Left"s to translate in two different contexts and two different "Right"s.

> Do you have a suggestion for the context string we could add?
How about these strings for the two contexts?
1) Option for the mouse primary button
2) Option for the Ubuntu Dock position on screen

Jeremy Bicha (jbicha) on 2017-10-02
Changed in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → Triaged
importance: Undecided → Low
Changed in ubuntu-translations:
status: Incomplete → Triaged
importance: Undecided → Low
Jeremy Bicha (jbicha) wrote :

Thanks for the reply.

I've not really worked with translation context before but I think I did it right. I uploaded my change to our packaging repository but not to Ubuntu yet.

I only added context to the Ubuntu dock strings Left, Right and Bottom. If you need context added to the Mouse strings, please file a bug with GNOME.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gnome-control-center&component=Mouse

Changed in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Fix Committed
Jeremy Bicha (jbicha) wrote :

The Ubuntu Desktop Team discussed this bug today. It is too late in Ubuntu 17.10's release cycle to make this change since it will break translations for these strings for all languages, and many of those languages would end up untranslated for 17.10.

We can make this change early in 18.04's release cycle. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Changed in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Committed → Triaged
tags: added: rls-bb-incoming
removed: artful
Doctor Rover (doctor-rover) wrote :

Jeremy Bicha, thank you for the prompt response and for your and the Team's kind consideration of the report.

The argument is absolutely reasonable, so I can only agree with the decision to postpone the fix until 18.04 cycle.
Will wait for the changes in Rosetta)

Doctor Rover (doctor-rover) wrote :

I am sorry for bothering, but I would like to remind that this issue is still not fixed in Bionic.
Thank you.

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Didier, could you have a look? That's probably just a question of providing some gettext context for the dock strings

Changed in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Didier Roche (didrocks)
Will Cooke (willcooke) on 2018-03-06
tags: removed: rls-bb-incoming
tags: added: bionic
Doctor Rover (doctor-rover) wrote :

My apologies again, but I’m worried about possibility of yet another it’s-too-late situation like it was during artful development cycle (comment #7).
I agree with Sebastien, it must be just a matter of giving context to two translatable strings.
Please give us -- Ubuntu translators -- possibility to provide quality translation. Thank you!

Didier Roche (didrocks) wrote :

This is on my list and will probably land next week (it needs testing, see which context should be applied where).

Sorry, but late feature requests is taking precedence, and this is why there is this timeline. However, I got it opened as a TODO :)

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package gnome-control-center - 1:3.28.0-0ubuntu5

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gnome-control-center (1:3.28.0-0ubuntu5) bionic; urgency=medium

  * debian/patches/71_ubuntu_dock_settings.patch:
    - add context for dock settings where left/right is translated differently
      to mouse buttons (LP: #1719462).

 -- Didier Roche <email address hidden> Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:27:01 +0200

Changed in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic):
status: Triaged → Fix Released
Doctor Rover (doctor-rover) wrote :

Great! Thank you :)

Didier Roche (didrocks) wrote :

Sorry for the delay :) Tell me if anything isn't as you expect!

Changed in ubuntu-translations:
status: Triaged → Fix Released
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