Activity log for bug #654484

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2010-10-04 10:22:57 adoa bug added bug
2010-10-04 10:22:59 adoa attachment added autoScreenshot.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/654484/+attachment/1671069/+files/autoScreenshot.png
2010-10-04 10:25:04 adoa attachment added chi_nu.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/654484/+attachment/1671071/+files/chi_nu.png
2010-10-04 19:12:12 Paul Sladen attachment added greek-nu-alternate.pdf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/654484/+attachment/1671952/+files/greek-nu-alternate.pdf
2011-09-28 13:00:33 Paul Sladen tags uff-greek uff-style
2014-11-18 14:54:58 Matthew Paul Thomas summary Style: v ν x χ Greek and Latin characters use the same glyph in italic style [2 mod] Style: v ν x χ Greek and Latin characters use the same glyph in italic style
2014-11-18 14:55:02 Matthew Paul Thomas ubuntu-font-family: status New Triaged
2014-11-18 14:55:05 Matthew Paul Thomas ubuntu-font-family: importance Undecided Medium
2014-11-18 14:55:48 Matthew Paul Thomas description Rendered in 21pt Italic Sample Glyphs: ν=v x=χ Description: Some lowercase Greek and Latin characters use the same glyph in italic style. This is quite unfortunate for formula typesetting. Especially in physics. Many sans-serif fonts have this problem. It is the reason most people use serif fonts for formula typesetting, including myself. Since in almost every font, many of the Greek uppercase letters share glyphs with Latin uppercase letters, these Greek uppercase letters are not distinguished from the equivalent Latin uppercase letters in formula typesetting: ABEHKMNOTXZ ... Thus the ambiguity is usually given by using lowercase Greek and Latin letters. As far as I know, in formula typesetting the lowercase letters are usually used in italic style. So it would be great if at least the italic versions are distinguishable. The only exception I know about, is the Greek υ (U+03C5) which is often hard to distinguish from Latin u (U+0075), so in formula typesetting usually only the latter is used. In the current ubuntu-font the following characters share the same glyph: • the Greek ν (nu) and Latin v, which is awful for semi classical calculations for example • the Greek χ (chi) and Latin x, which is a problem if an indicator function is named χ and the variable is x In most sans-serif fonts these two cases are unambiguous in italic style. So these occur more often than one would think. UA String: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; de; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100915 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.10 Rendered in 21pt Italic Sample Glyphs: ν=v x=χ Description: Some lowercase Greek and Latin characters use the same glyph in italic style. This is quite unfortunate for formula typesetting. Especially in physics. Many sans-serif fonts have this problem. It is the reason most people use serif fonts for formula typesetting, including myself. Since in almost every font, many of the Greek uppercase letters share glyphs with Latin uppercase letters, these Greek uppercase letters are not distinguished from the equivalent Latin uppercase letters in formula typesetting: ABEHKMNOTXZ ... Thus the ambiguity is usually given by using lowercase Greek and Latin letters. As far as I know, in formula typesetting the lowercase letters are usually used in italic style. So it would be great if at least the italic versions are distinguishable. The only exception I know about, is the Greek υ (U+03C5) which is often hard to distinguish from Latin u (U+0075), so in formula typesetting usually only the latter is used. In the current ubuntu-font the following characters share the same glyph:  • the Greek ν (nu) and Latin v, which is awful for semi classical calculations for example  • the Greek χ (chi) and Latin x, which is a problem if an indicator function is named χ and the variable is x (see also bug 647092) In most sans-serif fonts these two cases are unambiguous in italic style. So these occur more often than one would think. UA String: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; de; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100915 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.10
2014-11-18 14:56:15 Matthew Paul Thomas attachment removed autoScreenshot.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/654484/+attachment/1671069/+files/autoScreenshot.png
2015-03-05 17:43:04 Matthew Paul Thomas tags uff-greek uff-style uff-dm-review uff-greek uff-style
2015-08-18 16:45:24 Magdalena Mirowicz ubuntu-font-family: milestone 0.92-beta-test
2015-08-19 12:19:05 Magdalena Mirowicz ubuntu-font-family: status Triaged In Progress
2015-08-26 21:08:16 Rasmus Underbjerg Pinnerup bug added subscriber Rasmus Underbjerg Pinnerup
2015-12-08 16:00:59 Matthew Paul Thomas attachment added before-and-after screenshots https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/654484/+attachment/4531518/+files/654484-Greek-characters.png
2016-01-04 10:41:38 Magdalena Mirowicz ubuntu-font-family: status In Progress Fix Committed
2020-09-28 03:23:36 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos bug task added fonts-ubuntu (Ubuntu)
2020-09-28 03:23:43 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fonts-ubuntu (Ubuntu): status New Triaged