Gutsy RC1 LiveCD can't find flashplugin-nonfree when using install plugin on firefox

[Brad]

Binary package hint: firefox

I am not sure if this is related to bug #139138, but the behavior I see is sorta similar, other than it isn't actually installing the flash plugin even after restarting firefox. Firefox shows me two options, Gnash and the Adobe flash plugin. When I select it, it pops up a dialog with a red x saying Can not find 'flashplugin-nonfree'. After closing the dialog, it shows a dialog saying it successfully installed, but when trying to view flash content it clearly isn't installed. Also restarting firefox doesn't have any effect, it simply asks again to install plugins.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Fri Oct 12 12:36:12 2007
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10
Package: firefox 2.0.0.6+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1
PackageArchitecture: i386
SourcePackage: firefox
Uname: Linux ubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 06:00:47 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

[manny (estelar57)]

confirmed

i hope they can fix this before the final version.

Is really very annoying bug.

the problem is that flash non free is not included in the live-cd, nor the universe repositories are activated by default (confuses everything)

installing flash was so simple, but they screw it up with the new method.

[Sarah Kowalik (hobbsee-deactivatedaccount)]

...

1) we're *not* sticking flashplugin-nonfree on the cd. Just. No.

2) It's not in universe. it has never been in universe. it never *will* be in universe.

3) it's in multiverse, and we don't enable that by default (afaik).

[Sarah Kowalik (hobbsee-deactivatedaccount)]

3.5) No, apparently we *do* add multiverse by default now.

Did you have multiverse enabled, when you did your install? Did you install or dist-upgrade?

[Brad (brad-frank)]

1) we're *not* sticking flashplugin-nonfree on the cd. Just. No.
Hmm, I don't really care if it is on the cd so much as I care that it installs as it did with feisty while using the livecd. If it wasn't on the livecd for feisty, then I don't really think it should be for gutsy either...

2) It's not in universe. it has never been in universe. it never *will* be in universe.
Ok, well that is fine, I guess all that really says is that feisty itself was never pulling it from universe either. That really isn't a big problem for me... Probably just a mistake by the previous commenter.

3) it's in multiverse, and we don't enable that by default (afaik).
Well, from the times I remember booting from the livecd with feisty, I don't recall multiverse ever being enabled in the sources.list. So I think you are probably right about that, but I do know the plugin still installed. So whether that means that clicking install plugin in firefox was somehow smart enough to pull the plugin from multiverse without it actually being enabled in the sources file and updated, I am not sure. What I am sure of is that whatever it was doing in feisty, it no longer is doing in gutsy, sadly...

3.5) No, apparently we *do* add multiverse by default now.
As I think I heard you say in the channel, that is probably true after an installation. And it did appear as though once I manually added the multiverse line in sources.list and updated that it finally could find the plugin, but what perplexes me is why the behavior has changed from feisty to gutsy. From the perspective of anyone used to being able to this behavior, gutsy will now seem like a downgrade. It is arguable whether anyone should be doing this on a livecd at all, but then again this seems like exactly the kind of thing a livecd SHOULD be allowing people to do. Especially for scenarios where people want to test Ubuntu and ensure that everything they need or want to do will work, BEFORE they install. Hopefully someone who knows more about what feisty was doing, and what changed in gutsy can look at this and get this resolved. I would also love if anyone else who still has a feisty cd, if they could boot and replicate the installation of the flash plugin and confirm for me that it really IS installing on feisty without enabling multiverse, because I am pretty sure it was. Regardless of whether it should have been doing that or not, the process was simpler and smoother in feisty especially to people new to Ubuntu.

[LOGAN (albartus)]

I am using the 7.10 and I get this error. However having used 7.04 it was no problem. I don't hope this is to push the 'Gnash' thing and would like to see it like it was in 7.04.

[Miguel Diago (mdm)]

I think this bug is again present in Hardy Alpha 5 live CD.

Now Firefox 3 Beta can't install neither Adobe Flash, nor Gnash, showing an error about "flashplugin-nonfree" or "mozilla-plugin-gnash" being not found, and then informing the user that Flash has been (actually not) successfully installed. However, this is solved by enabling multiverse and universe respectively...

[Saša Bodiroža (jazzva)]

Hi Miguel Diago,

Can you reproduce this bug on Hardy final?

[Miguel Diago (mdm)]

No, this is no longer a problem for me on Hardy final.

[Saša Bodiroža (jazzva)]

Fixed in final.