r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

Bug #284408 reported by Pat Double
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This bug affects 44 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Release Notes for Ubuntu
Invalid
Undecided
Unassigned
Software Updater
Invalid
Undecided
Unassigned
fglrx
Won't Fix
Medium
Unassigned
fglrx-installer (Ubuntu)
Won't Fix
Medium
Unassigned
Nominated for Karmic by vyncere
Intrepid
Won't Fix
Undecided
Unassigned
Jaunty
Won't Fix
Medium
Unassigned
update-manager (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Medium
Michael Vogt
Nominated for Karmic by vyncere
Intrepid
Fix Released
Undecided
Unassigned
Jaunty
Fix Released
Medium
Michael Vogt

Bug Description

Using fglrx-installer 2:8.543-0ubuntu4, r3xx hardware such as Radeon 9500, Mobility Radeon 9700 and similar don't work

They are not explicitly listed in the modaliases, so they will not be offered by Jockey. In the past, this hardware did work with the fglrx driver. Now the fglrx driver indicates memory errors when trying to load.

Here is a snippet of what the memory error will look like:
[ 1024.699204] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1169 MBytes.
[ 1024.700616] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
[ 1024.700683] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
[ 1024.700757] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

WORKAROUND:
You'll need to completely remove the proprietary driver and [re]install the open-source driver. As a plus, many users report improved performance with the open-source drivers in Intrepid versus ATI's fglrx in Hardy for 2D purposes such as normal desktop use and video playback.
1. sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
2. sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
3. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
4. Restart.

TEST CASE:
1. Install intrepid w/ r3xx hardware.
2. attempt to activate fglrx and reboot verifying unable to start X
3. Activate intrepid-proposed
4. update to new fglrx version, verify that X starts up properly

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Pat Double (patdouble) wrote :
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Pat Double (patdouble) wrote :

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [1002:4e50]
        Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:017c]
        Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
        Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        I/O ports at c000 [size=256]
        Memory at fcff0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        Expansion ROM at fc000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel modules: radeonfb

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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

modalias:pci:v00001002d00004E50sv00001028sd0000017Cbc03sc00i00
modalias

Indeed the current /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/fglrx-modules.alias.override does not contain this model. If you confirm that your card works with fglrx, then the list shuold be updated to include this. Thanks!

Changed in jockey:
status: New → Triaged
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Pat Double (patdouble) wrote :

It doesn't work :( I have used fglrx on this machine for at least a year, the last version was 8.9 on Hardy. There are two problems. The fglrx module won't load, I have included a kernel snippet. Perhaps the mtrr errors are important? The second is that X won't start.

[ 54.001576] mtrr: base(0xf0000000) is not aligned on a size(0x7ff0000) boundary
[ 61.356036] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[ 131.947429] mtrr: no MTRR for f0000000,7ff0000 found
[ 151.017569] pci 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[ 161.449071] mtrr: base(0xf0000000) is not aligned on a size(0x7ff0000) boundary
[ 181.315090] fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
[ 181.358014] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1896 MBytes.
[ 181.359293] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
[ 181.374755] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
[ 181.390432] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed
[ 376.592709] mtrr: no MTRR for f0000000,7ff0000 found
[ 450.141471] mtrr: base(0xf0000000) is not aligned on a size(0x7ff0000) boundary

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Mario Limonciello (superm1) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] [NEW] jockey does not offer fglrx for ATI Radeon Mobility 9700

It sounds like the driver is perhaps accurately indicating that it
doesn't support your card then.

On 10/16/2008, Pat Double <email address hidden> wrote:
> It doesn't work :( I have used fglrx on this machine for at least a
> year, the last version was 8.9 on Hardy. There are two problems. The
> fglrx module won't load, I have included a kernel snippet. Perhaps the
> mtrr errors are important? The second is that X won't start.
>
> [ 54.001576] mtrr: base(0xf0000000) is not aligned on a size(0x7ff0000)
> boundary
> [ 61.356036] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
> [ 131.947429] mtrr: no MTRR for f0000000,7ff0000 found
> [ 151.017569] pci 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
> [ 161.449071] mtrr: base(0xf0000000) is not aligned on a size(0x7ff0000)
> boundary
> [ 181.315090] fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI
> Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
> [ 181.358014] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers:
> 1896 MBytes.
> [ 181.359293] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
> [ 181.374755] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when
> allocating device heads
> [ 181.390432] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed
> [ 376.592709] mtrr: no MTRR for f0000000,7ff0000 found
> [ 450.141471] mtrr: base(0xf0000000) is not aligned on a size(0x7ff0000)
> boundary
>
>
> ** Attachment added: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18618768/Xorg.0.log.baseconf-with-fglrx
>
> --
> jockey does not offer fglrx for ATI Radeon Mobility 9700
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to fglrx-
> installer in ubuntu.
>

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Mario Limonciello
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Bryce Harrington (bryce) wrote : Re: jockey does not offer fglrx for ATI Radeon Mobility 9700

Attached is the user-manual/index.html file that came with this 8.543 driver.
It does show Mobility Radeon 9700 as supported.

Changed in fglrx-installer:
importance: Undecided → Medium
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Marco (0m3g4) wrote :

Package: xorg-driver-fglrx
State: not installed
Version: 2:8.543-0ubuntu3
Priority: optional
Section: multiverse/misc
Maintainer: Mario Limonciello <email address hidden>
Uncompressed Size: 37.6M
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4), libdrm2 (>= 2.3.0), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libice6
         (>= 1:1.0.0), libsm6, libx11-6, libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2), libxext6, libxi6 (>= 2:1.1.3-1ubuntu3), libxrandr2, libxrender1, xserver-xorg-core,
         fglrx-kernel-source
Recommends: fglrx-amdcccle, libamdxvba1
Conflicts: fglrx-driver, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-173, nvidia-glx-177, nvidia-glx-71, nvidia-glx-96, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-new, xfree86-driver-fglrx
Replaces: fglrx-driver, xfree86-driver-fglrx
Description: Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerators
 Video driver for the ATI Radeon and FireGL graphics accelerators.

 This version of the ATI driver officially supports:
 * RADEON X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900
 * RADEON 8500, 9000, 9100, 9200, 9500, 9550, 9600, 9700, 9800
 * RADEON X800, X700, X600, X550, X300 series (AGP and PCI Express)
 * MOBILITY RADEON 9000, 9200, 9600, 9800, X700
 * MOBILITY RADEON 9000/9100 IGP Series
 * FireGL 8700, 8800, E1, E2, X1, X2, X3, Z1, T2
 * MOBILITY FireGL 9100, T2
 * RADEON XPRESS 200

 This package provides 2D display drivers and hardware accelerated OpenGL.
Homepage: http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

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Pat Double (patdouble) wrote :

It seems there is some confusion about what the driver claims to support. In some documentation the Mobility 9700 is supported, in others it is not listed. I visited ATI's site and the Mobility 9700 is available in the driver selection and it goes to Catalyst 8.10.

In a previous note the lspci output reports my card as a 9600 M10. In the Xorg.0.log it reports as:

Chipset: "ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP)" (ChipID = 0x4e50)

Should upstream be contacted to determine if they intend to support the Mobility 9700 ? Up to Catalyst 8.9 the card has been supported. I have not tried 8.10 because I am using Intrepid.

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Axel Kellermann (axel-kellermann) wrote :

Same problem here. I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 that is identified by lspci as:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

Jockey doesn't list the fglrx driver and if I install it manually every attempt to insert the kernel module produces the following errors:

[ 1024.699204] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1169 MBytes.
[ 1024.700616] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
[ 1024.700683] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
[ 1024.700757] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

I also attached the output of dmesg.

Hardware: Acer TravelMate 4002LMi with ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
System: Kubuntu 8.10 (release candidate)

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Mauricio Ramalho (phreaker) wrote :

I'm using a fresh installation of Intrepid (downloaded and installed today).

I have the same problem. My Mobility Radeon 9700 is listed as:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

Jockey won't display any drivers for me to download. I'm afraid of installing them manually because the last time I did that (on Hardy 8.04) the login screen went white (I found on my searches through Google some people calling it the white screen of death lol)

What can we do to fix this?

description: updated
description: updated
Changed in ubuntu-release-notes:
assignee: nobody → superm1
status: New → Fix Released
Changed in fglrx-installer:
importance: Medium → High
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Yi Yang (yang1138) wrote : Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx

Same problem.my ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 that is identified by lspci as:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

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stomlin (sethtomlin) wrote :

Does anyone know if ATI plans to re implement the 300 series chips in future releases, and also is 8.9 working in Intrepid. Thanks for any replies

Bryce Harrington (bryce)
Changed in fglrx:
importance: Undecided → High
status: New → Triaged
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Bryce Harrington (bryce) wrote :

This issue has been upstreamed to AMD. They believe it matches one of two issues they know of (one is particular to AGP systems).

For now, r3xx users with this problem should focus on using the -ati or -vesa driver.

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horizontaleight (mbyoung) wrote :

Thanks for the update, Bryce. I can also confirm a segmentation fault running aticonfig --initial on my Radeon 9700 pro after a manual installation on Intrepid. Jockey is still not displaying anything for restricted drivers. Is this still intentional because of this issue?

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Hali (sahaly) wrote :

for my radeon 9700 TX the following instructions in a duplicate thread worked:
1. sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
2. sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-radeon
3. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati

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Waldeck Schützer (waldeck-dm) wrote :

I would like to report that upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 disabled both 3D acceleration and wifi on my Acer Aspire 5100 notebook. Here is an excerpt from lscpi:

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
06:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)

Both required proprietary drivers to work properly and none are presently available. It is strange that Jockey will tell me that the fglrx driver is available but I cannot activate it. I am assuming that this is some leftover from the upgrade.

It is really unfortunate to loose all that functionality on an otherwise nice notebook. Perhaps in the future new upgrades will actually make things work better, not worse.

Waldeck

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Tomasz Czapiewski (xeros) wrote :

I was scared by the Ubuntu 8.10 Release Notes instruction:
"ATI "fglrx" video support

The ATI video driver in 8.10 drops support for video cards with r300 based chips (the Radeon 9500 - X600 Series of cards). If you have such a card, please use "Hardware Drivers" at System/Administration to disable it before the upgrade. Please see bug 284408 for more information "

Is it confirmed that AMD has dropped support for R300 chips or is it just a bug in the new Xorg and kernel adaptation in the driver?
I use AMD FGLRX 8.10 driver on Hardy downloaded from AMD website and it works without problems on my (desktop) Radeon 9600 (RV350).
I was managing to upgrade to Intrepid in few days.

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Patrick Dickey (pdickeybeta) wrote :

Like Thomas, I was concerned but I followed their instructions and disabled the driver. After restarting, I reactivated the driver that Ubunut offered me. Everything seems to be running alright.

"[ 21.015916] fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
[ 21.254211] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 927 MBytes.
[ 21.254450] [fglrx] vendor: 1002 device: 4153 count: 1
[ 21.255269] [fglrx] ioport: bar 1, base 0xc000, size: 0x100
[ 21.255310] pci 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[ 21.256111] [fglrx] PAT is enabled successfully!
[ 21.274926] [fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.54.3 [Oct 10 2008] with 1 minors
..........
[ 54.151636] [fglrx] AGP detected, AgpState = 0x1f000207 (hardware caps of chipset)
[ 59.625790] agpgart-via 0000:00:00.0: AGP 2.0 bridge
[ 59.625855] agpgart-via 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
[ 59.625924] fglrx_pci 0000:01:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
[ 59.625944] [fglrx] AGP enabled, AgpCommand = 0x1f000304 (selected caps)
[ 59.632699] [fglrx] Setup AGP aperture
[ 59.634285] [fglrx] GART Table is not in FRAME_BUFFER range
[ 59.646322] [fglrx] CMM init INV FB MC:0xc8000000, length:0x8000000
[ 59.646373] [fglrx] Reserved FB block: Shared offset:0, size:40000

" (from my dmesg results)

As far as I know, I have an ATI 9550 AGP video card. So, it recognizes that card. I'm not entirely sure where to find the exact maufacturer and model of the card though, since it's not showing in dmesg anywhere.

If there's anything else that I can (or need to) provide, let me know.
Have a great day:)
Patrick.

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

Same here on my 9600 - thankfully the OS driver is quite competent but I wouldn't mind the real deal as with this driver the screen doesn't turn off when the lid is closed.

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Michael Rooney (mrooney) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:21 AM, David Taylor <email address hidden> wrote:
> Same here on my 9600 - thankfully the OS driver is quite competent but I
> wouldn't mind the real deal as with this driver the screen doesn't turn
> off when the lid is closed.
>

That just sounds like a power setting issue, make sure it is set to
blank screen appropriately in System -> Preferences -> Power
Management. Mine with a 9600 and the OS drivers actually turns off the
screen when closed.

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Charles Curley (charlescurley) wrote : Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx

I'm not sure if I'm seeing this same bug. Due to ATI's ornate nomenclature, I don't know if my machine is on the list of supported machines or not. (Has anyone got an ATI taxonomy?)

root@dzur:~# lspci | grep VGA
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]
root@dzur:~# pre fglrx
root@dzur:~# lsmod | grep -i fgl
root@dzur:~#

I was able to use Hali's method (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/284408/comments/15) to get the video-ati driver installed (xserver-xorg-video-ati-1:6.9.0+git20081003.f9826a56-0ubuntu2--i386). So far so good.

Two problems:

* I can only use one of my two monitors. This severely crimps my ability to earn my living. Thanks.

* The power control system does not shut off the one LCD monitor I can use. This means it sits there running at 40 watts instead of less than half a watt. It also means I have to turn it on and off manually, at least a 15 year regression.

I will enter separate bugs for these, but I will also go back to the ATI proprietary driver as soon as I can.

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David A. Rountree (darountree) wrote :

My experience was like PatrickDickey's. I have a Gateway CX200X with a Mobility Raedon X600 video card. I disabled the proprietary flgrx driver, performed the upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, and then activated the proprietary flgrx driver. No problems! 3D acceleration works as well as it ever did. The bootup is much faster than 8.04 as well.

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montag (montag-fire) wrote :

Same problem here.
With a new installed Kubuntu 8.10, jockey-kde doesn't detect my Ati Radeon Mobile 9600 as needing for the restricted driver.
I also tried with Envy-ng, but same problem: the Ati driver 8.543-0ubuntu4 is listed as NOT compatible.

lspci:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Ati Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

Michael Vogt (mvo)
Changed in update-manager:
assignee: nobody → mvo
importance: Undecided → Medium
milestone: none → intrepid-updates
status: New → In Progress
status: New → Invalid
Michael Vogt (mvo)
description: updated
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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

Accepted into intrepid-proposed, please test and give feedback here. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

Changed in fglrx-installer:
status: New → Fix Committed
Changed in update-manager:
status: New → Fix Committed
Martin Pitt (pitti)
Changed in fglrx-installer:
status: Fix Committed → Triaged
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Esteban00 (esteban-diezlaiz) wrote :

Sorry Martin, what have been added on proposed repos ?
A new driver update ?
i only saw some updates for Compiz and nothing more ...

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Mario Limonciello (superm1) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx

Esteban00:

This is an update to transition people with r3xx away from fglrx to the open
source driver. It's applicable to anyone running hardy w/ r3xx and fglrx
that is considering upgrading.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:24, Esteban00 <email address hidden> wrote:

> Sorry Martin, what have been added on proposed repos ?
> A new driver update ?
> i only saw some updates for Compiz and nothing more ...
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee.
>

--
Mario Limonciello
<email address hidden>

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Oleksiy Kokachev (lelikv) wrote :

Dear Mario.
Why the status of this bug for Intrepid is marked as "Fix Commited"?
Where is the "fix" itself? Problem is still there.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Mario Limonciello <email address hidden>wrote:

> Esteban00:
>
> This is an update to transition people with r3xx away from fglrx to the
> open
> source driver. It's applicable to anyone running hardy w/ r3xx and fglrx
> that is considering upgrading.
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:24, Esteban00 <email address hidden>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Martin, what have been added on proposed repos ?
> > A new driver update ?
> > i only saw some updates for Compiz and nothing more ...
> >
> > --
> > r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> > You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee.
> >
>
>
> --
> Mario Limonciello
> <email address hidden>
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>

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Michael Vogt (mvo) wrote : Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx

@Oleksity: the fix is that update-manager detects the non-longer supported cards and offers to transition them to the free ati driver. We can not fix fglrx itself because we have no access to the source code. If you are affected help with the steps in "TEST CASE" in the description would be much appreciated so that we can ensure the fix works for everyone.

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

Michael, I am reading a conflicting message from your last statement:

"the non-longer supported cards"

"We can not fix fglrx itself"

Is this due to ati dropping support for these cards or due to a bug in the driver, both are implied in your last statement or do we just not know?

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Tomasz Czapiewski (xeros) wrote :

Yesterday I've installed Intrepid (Kubuntu) with Radeon 9600 and the installation went without problems with xserver-xorg-video-ati as default video driver. (Internet connection was enabled durring installation)
I've tested livecd on other computers with R300 cards (like X300 and some motherboard-integrated) - everywere the livecd used xserver-xorg-video-ati driver, desktop effects were enabled, glxinfo and xvinfo worked OK.

If fglrx cannot be fixed without AMD/ATI, will you provide updated fglrx driver in intrepid-updates when AMD/ATI release new driver this month?
xserver-xorg-video-ati driver works without problems but fglrx driver provides better speed and many more opengl functions for these cards.

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Esteban00 (esteban-diezlaiz) wrote :

So the fix is to use free drivers instead of fglrx.
I'm using xserver-xorg-video-radeon packages, are they the same xserver-xorg-video-ati one ?
For desktop use they seen to be ok, so use them instead of fglrx, t'll AMD/ATI release a new driver supporting R3xx chipsets.

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Cole Nielsen (nerdystudmuffin) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx

The fix here is not a "fix" for the fglrx issues as those will have to
be resolved by AMD/ATI. The fix is for Ubuntu users who are upgrading
to Intrepid and using the fglrx driver, the upgrade will prompt them
to disable the restricted driver and use one of the open source ones.
That is, Intrepid users with R300 drivers should use the open source
drivers for the time being.

No doubt this is a triage fix in order to prevent an "unusable" system
following an upgrade - which depending on AMD/ATI's resolution will
have a more permanent solution in the future -- fix the bug for R300
hardware, or discontinue support for it. Due to the widespread use of
this hardware I would assume that the latter will be the choice with
support being discontinued in the not-so-distance future.

Regards, Cole

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Esteban00 <email address hidden> wrote:
> So the fix is to use free drivers instead of fglrx.
> I'm using xserver-xorg-video-radeon packages, are they the same xserver-xorg-video-ati one ?
> For desktop use they seen to be ok, so use them instead of fglrx, t'll AMD/ATI release a new driver supporting R3xx chipsets.
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>

--
Cole Nielsen

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broesch (broesch) wrote : Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx

Could anybody point me in the direction of how to use the open drivers, I reinstalled Ubuntu, tried to do as Hali suggested but the package ati wasn't found tried radeon, no luck I thik I'll have to go back to hardy

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

I'm probably going to get frowned upon because this is a question for the forums but hey ho. The open drivers should have installed automatically and it is the 'xserver-xorg-video-ati' driver however if you have already installed the 'xorg-driver-fglrx' package you will need to 'sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx' as it seems now that x11 is not dependant on the xorg.conf file it automatically picks the fglrx driver but I think specifying the ati driver in the xorg file should also suffice. The reason I answer this here at the risk of getting frowned upon is that the new version of 'Adept' in Kubuntu is very poor and search results are pretty terrible so I have had my own brand of troubles in a similar vein and found using 'apt-cache search' a much superior tool.

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Oleksiy Kokachev (lelikv) wrote :

Dear Mario.
I think it's a good idea to mark fglrx-driver and xserver-xorg-video-ati as conflicting packages. Installing of xserver-xorg-video-ati should automatically remove fglrx-driverand vise-versa, because these packages replace files of each other, thus they are conflicting.

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Bryce Harrington (bryce) wrote :

This issue has been forwarded to AMD as EPR#257839.

I understand there are a number of bugs duped to this, and several people feeling they're seeing this same issue, and it's great seeing people share workaround tips, but please take care not to clutter this bug with unrelated information or unnecessary "me-too's", because it could make it confusing for the people who will be working to try to solve this problem.

Changed in fglrx:
importance: High → Medium
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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

update-manager copied to intrepid-updates. Michael, please upload the fix to jaunty, too.

Changed in update-manager:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
milestone: none → intrepid-updates
milestone: intrepid-updates → jaunty-alpha-1
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Matthew Helmke (matthelmke) wrote :

In the new release, Catalyst 8.11, the release notes state support for many of the cards that have been experiencing troubles.

Here is the link: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_811_linux.pdf

Sorry it is a pdf, that is how it is linked from the main site here: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

I am posting this in the hopes that once it is seen someone will have time to give it a test and perhaps get it into Intrepid Proposed for testing.

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Matthew Helmke (matthelmke) wrote :

Wait, the new release I just mentioned supports up to xorg 7.3, it does not mention 7.4, so what I said above may be useless info. Sorry for the static.

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W. Prins (wprins) wrote :

Well, the new 8.11 ATI driver release cured the problems for me. I have an ATI Radeon 9800XT (RV350/R360). (I downloaded the 8.11 driver from ATI and installed that, then went back into the System->Administration->Hardware drivers and enabled there as well. Driver is working fine.

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Cole Nielsen (nerdystudmuffin) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

The release notes describes many of the cards discussed as supported
and working.

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_811_linux.pdf

Regards,
Cole

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:30 PM, ByteJuggler <email address hidden> wrote:
> Well, the new 8.11 ATI driver release cured the problems for me. I have
> an ATI Radeon 9800XT (RV350/R360). (I downloaded the 8.11 driver from
> ATI and installed that, then went back into the
> System->Administration->Hardware drivers and enabled there as well.
> Driver is working fine.
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>

--
Cole Nielsen

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Mario Limonciello (superm1) wrote :

Closing the jaunty task since 8-11 is in Jaunty now.

Changed in fglrx-installer:
status: Triaged → Fix Released
description: updated
Changed in fglrx-installer:
milestone: none → intrepid-updates
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W. Prins (wprins) wrote :

Just as an aside, I think my meddling with "System->Administration->Hardware" was in fact detrimental, as I see the box again won't boot properly on Intrepid this morning (crashing with the fglrx driver which presumably was replaced again with the Ubuntu installed 8.10 version when I enabled it in System->Administration->Hardware. Funny thing is, I thought I had a successful boot with that last night, the dialog even said "driver enabled" etc etc.) So, for anyone on Intrepid wanting to use fglrx, install the 8.11 driver from the ATI site, but leave the System->Administration->Hardware dialog alone.

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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

Accepted into intrepid-proposed, please test and give feedback here. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

Changed in fglrx-installer:
milestone: intrepid-updates → none
status: Triaged → Fix Committed
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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

Above SRU was for:

 fglrx-installer (2:8.552-0ubuntu0.1) intrepid-proposed; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version (8-11).
     - Resolves hardware support for r3xx hardware (LP: #284408)

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Daniel Swarbrick (pressureman) wrote :

Still no luck here with a Mobility Radeon 9700 ("ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]" according to lspci).

Same error as before, when modprobing fglrx:

[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 430 MBytes.
[fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
[fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
[fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

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Matthew Helmke (matthelmke) wrote :

I have the same card, Mobility Radeon 9700 --

lspci: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

I get the same error as Daniel, so there is confirmation for that card.

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Mario Limonciello (superm1) wrote :

Matthew and Daniel:
Please confirm that you are testing with the 8-11 driver from intrepid-proposed not the 8-10. Post /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg to be sure

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Stormking (marcus-klemm) wrote :

> Please confirm that you are testing with the 8-11 driver from intrepid-proposed not the 8-10.

I tested the 8.11 driver, yesterday. I used the installer from the AMD website. The error is still the same.

I got a Mobility Radeon 9700.

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Daniel Swarbrick (pressureman) wrote :

Mario,

The fglrx errors I pasted in my previous response are from dmesg. I did not go as far as installing the Xorg fglrx driver via the restricted drivers manager, since it screws up to much other stuff and is a PITA to revert. I just installed fglrx-kernel-source and watched DKMS do it's thing, then rebooted in rescue mode, dropped to a shell and modprobed fglrx.

`dpkg -l` says I have version 8.552-0ubuntu0.1 of fglrx-kernel-source, which was installed from intrepid-proposed repos.

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Matthew Helmke (matthelmke) wrote :

I had removed them as my computer only booted in failsafe mode. I reinstalled from intrepid-proposed and am attaching the xorg log, as requested...not very interesting, though, as all you see is that I am booting in failsafe mode.

I've removed the drivers again.

The dmesg output was even less interesting, but I can attach it if you want.

Thanks for your work!

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Mario Limonciello (superm1) wrote :

OK:

Then it sounds like 8-11 didn't really solve the problem for all r3xx users.

It will still be good data though if it did solve it for anyone with r3xx.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:02, matthew <email address hidden> wrote:

> I had removed them as my computer only booted in failsafe mode. I
> reinstalled from intrepid-proposed and am attaching the xorg log, as
> requested...not very interesting, though, as all you see is that I am
> booting in failsafe mode.
>
> I've removed the drivers again.
>
> The dmesg output was even less interesting, but I can attach it if you
> want.
>
> Thanks for your work!
>
> ** Attachment added: "as requested"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19649697/xorglog
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee.
>

--
Mario Limonciello
<email address hidden>

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

Yup the 8.11 drivers are a failure for me as well - I have done some forum searching and others may find this interesting even if it wasn't the solution I wanted:

Some people have suggested they needed to delete the /usr/ati file before installing to get it to work.

You may need to run the /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh file before installation (I needed this to get my open drivers working again although I can't imagine why).

This part I truly don't understand - I have found out for certain that the screen not turning off is due to the open ati drivers as when I use the vesa drivers it works just fine. V strange.

I am a little let down by this however as I said before the open drivers are quite competent with Kwin & Plasma's shiny spangly loveliness but I wouldn't mind a working version of the fglrx drivers to compare just in case the shiny spangly loveliness is even better.

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Cole Nielsen (nerdystudmuffin) wrote :

I just attempted the install with the "proposed" version 8.11 and the
issue persists on mine as well.

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350
[Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

aticonfig --list-adapters reports that there are no adapters found
after the reboot.

The following is how I'm rolling back to the old driver:
$ sudo apt-get autoremove xorg-driver-fglrx
$ /etc/init.d/gdm restart

No need for a reboot as the kernel doesn't load the driver at
boot-time. Works like a charm.

Cole

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:23 PM, David Taylor
<email address hidden> wrote:
> Yup the 8.11 drivers are a failure for me as well - I have done some
> forum searching and others may find this interesting even if it wasn't
> the solution I wanted:
>
> Some people have suggested they needed to delete the /usr/ati file
> before installing to get it to work.
>
> You may need to run the /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh file before
> installation (I needed this to get my open drivers working again
> although I can't imagine why).
>
> This part I truly don't understand - I have found out for certain that
> the screen not turning off is due to the open ati drivers as when I use
> the vesa drivers it works just fine. V strange.
>
> I am a little let down by this however as I said before the open drivers
> are quite competent with Kwin & Plasma's shiny spangly loveliness but I
> wouldn't mind a working version of the fglrx drivers to compare just in
> case the shiny spangly loveliness is even better.
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>

--
Cole Nielsen

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Cole Nielsen (nerdystudmuffin) wrote :

correction: $ /etc/init.d/gdm restart should read
$ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Cole Nielsen <email address hidden> wrote:
> I just attempted the install with the "proposed" version 8.11 and the
> issue persists on mine as well.
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350
> [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
>
> aticonfig --list-adapters reports that there are no adapters found
> after the reboot.
>
> The following is how I'm rolling back to the old driver:
> $ sudo apt-get autoremove xorg-driver-fglrx
> $ /etc/init.d/gdm restart
>
> No need for a reboot as the kernel doesn't load the driver at
> boot-time. Works like a charm.
>
>
> Cole
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:23 PM, David Taylor
> <email address hidden> wrote:
>> Yup the 8.11 drivers are a failure for me as well - I have done some
>> forum searching and others may find this interesting even if it wasn't
>> the solution I wanted:
>>
>> Some people have suggested they needed to delete the /usr/ati file
>> before installing to get it to work.
>>
>> You may need to run the /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh file before
>> installation (I needed this to get my open drivers working again
>> although I can't imagine why).
>>
>> This part I truly don't understand - I have found out for certain that
>> the screen not turning off is due to the open ati drivers as when I use
>> the vesa drivers it works just fine. V strange.
>>
>> I am a little let down by this however as I said before the open drivers
>> are quite competent with Kwin & Plasma's shiny spangly loveliness but I
>> wouldn't mind a working version of the fglrx drivers to compare just in
>> case the shiny spangly loveliness is even better.
>>
>> --
>> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
>> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> of a duplicate bug.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cole Nielsen
>

--
Cole Nielsen

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Moses Moore (moses-mozai) wrote :

"Me too."
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

I also wish to comment that I found it very confusing to hear "make sure you're using 8-11 from intrepid-proposed" when the version number for the ubutnu package is 8.552-0 and reported by the video driver in /var/log/Xorg.0.log is 8.55.2
> (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.55.2
> (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.552
> (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Oct 28 2008 21:22:33

I attempted both "http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-proposed/restricted xorg-driver-fglrx 2:8.552-0ubuntu0.1" and also "ati-driver-installer-8-11-x86.x86_64.run" (dated Nov 12 2008) which I found at http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html . The version number reported by this *.run package is also v8.552

For what it's worth, I attempted to use the 'ati' video driver wrapper after installing each version of the proprietary driver, and the 'ati' video driver wrapper correctly used the 'radeon' driver instead of the unfunctional 'fglrx' driver, so we got that part right. I had to set "Driver fglrx" in the "Section Device" area of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to force it to attempt using the fglrx driver.

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Raid (pdecarlos) wrote :

Same problem with ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] on an HP nc6000.

It was working properly with all versions since 5.10. :-(

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Filipe Sousa (natros) wrote :

I'm having the same problem with my 9700. System/Administration/Hardware Drivers is empty. Installing
fglrx-driver causes the memory errors that were reported. I must say that this was working fine with hardy

$ apt-cache policy fglrx-kernel-source
fglrx-kernel-source:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2:8.552-0ubuntu0.1
  Version table:
     2:8.552-0ubuntu0.1 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-proposed/restricted Packages
     2:8.543-0ubuntu4 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Packages

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1772
 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
 Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
 Latency: 64 (2000ns min), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
 Region 0: Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
 Region 1: I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
 Region 2: Memory at ff8f0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Expansion ROM at ff8c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel modules: radeonfb

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W. Prins (wprins) wrote :

Ok another update... I've tonight installed all the "intrepid-proposed" updates that includes the update for puling in the FGLRX 8.11 Catalyst driver from ATI.

Unfortunately this didn't work, and I'm now back back to a totally non-functional fglrx for my 9800XT. Things I've tried:
- uninstalling fglrx related packages completely then reinstalling "8.11" package from ATI website
- recreated config with "aticonfig --initial -f"
Neither of these 2 remedies resulted in a working fglrx driver.

I should mention, I'm now consistently getting the same error on trying to start with the fglrx driver that I reported here for the 8.10 package against the Intrepid Beta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/286140

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Phil Cash (philcash) wrote :

G'day all,
Benq Joybook 7000 (ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600) - no problems in Gutsy or Hardy, but ghastly low resolution and aspect ratio only in Intrepid - Ubuntu 8.10 does not seem to detect the correct video hardware.
I've read through all above posts and many sound like Klingon or give directions without procedures (I neither speak Linux nor really wish to... I just like it and use it), but I gather Mr Cockup has visited the video driver. Just how do you find and install a new hardware driver? And don't tell me to deactivate the @#@ driver before upgrading. Unlike everyone else in the world who read the warning label and fine print and knew off the top of their head that they had r3xx hardware, I just pressed the upgrade button because Ubuntu's been working so well for me.
Is there a fix procedure yet?

Cheers,
Phil

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Marco (0m3g4) wrote :

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

i can confirm, driver ati 8.11 download from ATI website and driver xorg-driver-fglrx (see intrepid proposed) don't work.

 segfault at c ip 08053d0d sp bfa2ab90 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+35000]
 fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
 [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 678 MBytes.
 [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
 [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
 [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

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Michael Vogt (mvo) wrote :

update-manager in jaunty will check for r300 modaliases too. Its not very urgend as I don't excpet that the fglrx in intrepid and jaunty are actually that different, but I added it for good measure.

Changed in update-manager:
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
Steve Langasek (vorlon)
Changed in update-manager:
milestone: jaunty-alpha-1 → jaunty-alpha-2
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Stefano Maioli (smaioli) wrote :

Why is the bug marked fix released - fix committed for fglrx-installer (Ubuntu)? The latest version did *not* fix the problem, despite what ati says.

Changed in fglrx-installer:
status: Fix Released → Triaged
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h (isst) wrote :

maybe its the new ubuntu-kernel, which causes the problems
see "2.6.24-22 kernel broke up ati drivers"
http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373
(this report is not from me)

2.6.24-22 came out these days and maybe we all did it this way:
1. update to 2.6.24-22
2. update to fglrx 8-11

so we think it's fglrx 8-11 but in real it's the new kernel.

did anybody try 8-11 with 2.6.24-22 or earlier?

where can i get old kernel packages to test this?
(i removed the old kernel before trying fglrx)

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Moses Moore (moses-mozai) wrote :

h wrote:
> maybe its the new ubuntu-kernel, which causes the problems
> see "2.6.24-22 kernel broke up ati drivers"
> http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373

The 8.10 "intrepid" repositories are 2.6.27-7 and 2.6.27-9.
The 8.04 "hardy" repositories hold 2.6.24-{16,18,19,21,22}.

Don't forget that the 8-11 fglrx drivers aren't just for the newer
kernel version, but also the newer version of xorg (7.4), so if you're
going to install the older fglrx *.deb package you'll also have to
downgrade your xorg-* packages too... and everything that depends on the
newer xorg-* packages, which is probably too much.

Maybe building a new fglrx-2:8.543 (aka version 8-11) package with
linux-headers-2.6.24 might give us something that works with xorg-7.4
and linux-image-2.6.24 I'll give it a shot when I get home tonight (or
someone please tell me why this won't work.)

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gator (waltons4) wrote :

I for one would be happy to use the free driver if they could just fix the white noise with TV-out.

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13872

My ATI 9600 Mythbuntu box now sucks.

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Moses Moore (moses-mozai) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

Moses Moore wrote:
> Maybe building a new fglrx-2:8.543 (aka version 8-11) package with
> linux-headers-2.6.24 might give us something that works with xorg-7.4
> and linux-image-2.6.24 I'll give it a shot when I get home tonight (or
> someone please tell me why this won't work.)

Does not work. The "ATI Driver Installer" from
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html checks for
the Xorg version, and refuses if the version is higher than 7.3... which
is weird because the website says "Drivers for X.Org 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 7.0,
7.1, 7.2, 7.3 or 7.4".

<quote src=./fglrx-install.XXXXXX/check.sh >
  # XOrg 7.2 or lower has not been detected, try to detect XOrg 7.3
  # We don't want to detect and run on anything higher than XOrg 7.3
  # because starting this version we use autodetection of video driver ABI
  # and we want to know that we need to test the driver if there is a
major change
  # in the X server version
</quote>

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h (isst) wrote :

i tried the following older kernels whith fglrx 8-11 aka 8.552 and all gave the same fault as in the original bug report from pat:
2.6.22-16-generic
2.6.24-16-generic
2.6.24-19-generic

i used the original amd download and fixed the makefile myself.
the test procedure was:
1 install kernel image and ubuntu-modules
2 build and install the fglrx module with dkms
3 reboot, modprobe fglrx and look at dmesg.

the message was the same like in comment #0

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Axel Kellermann (axel-kellermann) wrote :

Just downloaded and tested the new Catalyst 8.11 driver from the AMD website. Building and installing the deb packages for Intrepid worked fine, but if I try to insert the resulting kernel module I get the following error message:

FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

Afterwards the output of dmesg (see attachment) lists a whole bunch of missing symbols. Hope this isn't too OT, but i thought this info might be helpful for the upstream maintainers...

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Stormking (marcus-klemm) wrote :

@gator:

For the white noise to disappear, you just need to turn the brighness down by 4-5% (on the XVideo overlay, not your TV). It's there because TV standards seem to have slightly less brightness levels than RGB, so everything brighter than the brightest "allowed" color produces errors. Maybe fglrx makes these adjustments automatically and the free drivers don't.

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Hali (sahaly) wrote :

After I installed the latest catalyst Driver I cannot successfully switch back to the free driver ATI catalyst control center still shows up under application, how do I return the system to it's previous state ?

Currently it insists on booting into low graphics mode.

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Oleksiy Kokachev (lelikv) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

1. sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
2. sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-driver-ati

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Hali <email address hidden> wrote:

> After I installed the latest catalyst Driver I cannot successfully
> switch back to the free driver ATI catalyst control center still shows
> up under application, how do I return the system to it's previous state
> ?
>
> Currently it insists on booting into low graphics mode.
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>

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Chol (chol83) wrote :

Today Catalyst 8.12 was released. Did anyone test it already?
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

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Stefano Maioli (smaioli) wrote :

Ati driver 8.12 STILL DOES NOT WORK (9500pro). I guess we'll have to start mailbombing ati executives..

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Hali (sahaly) wrote :

AMD seems to think this should work, I'm away from my linux box to check package dependencies.

The release notes for 8.12 state
"
Support for New Linux Operating Systems
This release of ATI Catalyst™ Linux introduces support for the following new
operating system:
• Ubuntu 8.10 support – early look
"

with requirements:

"
System Requirements
Before attempting to install the ATI Catalyst™ Linux software suite, the following
software must be installed:
• XOrg 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 or 7.4
• Linux Kernel 2.6 and above
• glibc version 2.2 or 2.3
• POSIX Shared Memory (/dev/shm) support is required for 3D applications
For best performance and ease of use, AMD recommends the following:
• Kernel module build environment
• Kernel source code include either the Kernel Source or Kernel Headers
packages
• The RPM utility should be installed and configured correctly on your system,
if you intend to install via RPM packages
• The following packages must be installed in order for the ATI Catalyst™
Linux driver to install and work properly:
• XFree86-Mesa-libGL
• libstdc++
• libgcc
• XFree86-libs
• fontconfig
• freetype
• zlib
"

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Nicolas G. (nicolas06) wrote :

ATI 8.12 still broken for "ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]".

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Laurent Bigonville (bigon) wrote :

Still broken here too

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Markus (markus-grombein-de) wrote :

The release notes doesn't mention the mobility radeon 9700.
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_812_linux.pdf

Is this because AMD dropped support for this card or just a carelessness?

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

"
ATI Radeon™ 9700 Series
ATI Radeon™ 9600 Series
ATI Radeon™ 9550 Series
ATI Radeon™ 9500 Series
"

All there in the product family support.

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Markus (markus-grombein-de) wrote :

As far as I know is the ATI Radeon™ 9700 (Desktop) not the same as the ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 (Notebook). I read that they're totaly different hardware. And the people here have trouble with the Mobility version.

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Hali (sahaly) wrote :

I have trouble with the desktop version, should I be looking at / commenting on a different bug report ?

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

"ATI Radeon™ 9700 Series"

I figured series meant all the 9700 series but I could be wrong.

"As far as I know is the ATI Radeon™ 9700 (Desktop) not the same as the ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 (Notebook)."
"I have trouble with the desktop version, should I be looking at / commenting on a different bug report ?"

Guess not

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Warren Tan (imwarren) wrote :

I using ATI Radeon 9200SE video card.

I removed the the open driver, and installed the fglrx driver.
Video "works", but i cannot change resolution and refresh rate under system>preference>screen resolution
neither is my computer able to show the test-video under system>administration>hardware testing

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Sam Ward (samward1965) wrote :

card = radeon 9500

added ati 8.12
fglrxinfo output:
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!

Segmentation fault

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Andrew (arosborough) wrote :

I have an ATI Radeon™ 9700 (Desktop) card

Compiled the fglrx drivers from intrepid-proposed and also downloaded and installed ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run

set Driver=fglrx in xorg.conf, and both times after rebooting:

#tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.55.2
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.552
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Oct 28 2008 21:22:33
(WW) This ATI Proprietary Linux Driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.0
(WW) Video driver ABI version of the X server is 4.1
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

# modprobe fglrx
FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory

# tail /var/log/messages
Dec 14 15:32:15 kernel: [ 710.921544] fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
Dec 14 15:32:15 kernel: [ 710.983664] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 2893 MBytes.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package update-manager - 1:0.95.2

---------------
update-manager (1:0.95.2) jaunty; urgency=low

  * DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeQuirks.py:
    - check the support of fglrx against the current
      PCI card (LP: #284408)
  * DistUpgrade/xorg_fix_intrepid.py:
    - do not rewrite multiseat configs (LP: #292774)
  * UpdateManager/Common/MyCache.py,
    UpdateManager/Common/UpdateList.py:
    - move the cache,updatelist implementation out into
      its own file
  * fix free space check on regular update-manager
    invocations (LP: #105113)
  * debian/rules
    - remove the arch-build target
  * DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeController.py:
    - improvements to the sources.list rewriting, better tests
    - when rewriting sources.list check for inconsistencies between what
      components are enabled in intrepid vs intrepid-updates and
      intrepid-security and automatically enable missing ones for
      intrepid-updates and intrepid-security
    - new test if the upgrade is run from a remote
      login (LP: #301787)

 -- Michael Vogt <email address hidden> Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:39:27 +0100

Changed in update-manager:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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Paul (treepata) wrote :

I am using a ATI Radeon™ 9700 PRO (Desktop) card.

Migrated from Windows XP to Xubuntu 8.10 (so fresh install).

First used the xserver-xorg-video drivers, which worked ok. But I need the proprietary drivers for some games (under Wine) so I removed the xserver-xorg-video drivers and then installed the fglrx drivers. First tried the fglrx drivers in the repositories, then the 8.12 version on the ati.amd website (using the install method given on their website).

Both didn't work (system returns to the low graphics setting). When entering "aticonfig --initial -f" in a Terminal I get a segmentation fault. Editing the xorg config file manually results in nothing as well (system returns to the low graphics setting).

Will install the xserver-xorg drivers for now, but I really hope ati-amd will solve this issue soon.

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Calistah (calistah) wrote :

My experience has been exactly the same so far Paul. I'm using an ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility.

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

I get the segmentation fault when running the aticonfig tool too.

It appears to be unnecessary anyway with the new version of X detecting the drivers as as-soon as I install the ati driver it automatically gets loaded at start time.

It's just a pity it doesn't work.

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julian (atomsailor) wrote :

I'm impressed with all that is happening here in trying to get our ATI cards to work. I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, am running Intrepid, and have the following question:

I have an ASUS L4500R with an ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9100 IGP. Is there anything that I can do to get this card to run at least 2D stuff, ideally 3D applications?

I've tried installing the binary X-org ati package, but every time I do that, I get an error message, have to go into low graphics mode, and have to uninstall the package again. I've tried tweaking the x-org file but same thing happens.

Can someone please give me an idea what I can do, or is there currently no solution?

Thank you for your time!

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Warren Tan (imwarren) wrote :

and for those with incompatible graphic card on a desktop computer like me, a fool-proof way to get your computer graphic to work while awaiting better fixes, this is what you can do:

open up your CPU (remove all the choking dust), remove your graphic card (be gentle), and store it in a safe place. In the meantime, connect your monitor directly to your motherboard's graphic output.

***disclaimer, you may damage your CPU physically if not careful

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Michael Rooney (mrooney) wrote :

Warren, I wouldn't recommend removing your graphics card, and not all motherboards have onboard video anyway. The open-source drivers work quite well for most purposes, much better for me then the proprietary ones in Hardy in fact. Just purge xorg-driver-fglrx and then install xserver-xorg-video-ati or -vesa failing -ati. I'll update the description with the workaround.

description: updated
Michael Rooney (mrooney)
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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

Does anyone know of any concrete bug reports with ATI for this - I have had a look at the remote bug watches and it is hard to say if they have anything to do with this fault.

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Francesco P. (fpedersoli) wrote :

The same error for me with 8.12 ATI driver, segmentation fault in aticonfig and always start in low graphic resolution; fglrx not recognized. I use an ATI Mobility 9600 on a IBM/Lenovo T42 Notebook and it seems to be into the supported card list.
I tried both manual and automatic installation: none work and no way to use ATI Driver on Ubuntu 8.10. By the way jockey don't recognize any proprietary device installed. Standard drivers works but some annoying flickering with graphics and games.

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Felix (felixd) wrote :

Removing fglrx and re-installing xserver-xorg-video-ati worked for my Mobility 9600 (r350). Thanks.

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shanakadu (shanakadu) wrote :

Hi,

It´s true, this works, but it doesn´t add hardware acceleration for 3d as
fglrx does.

Merry Christmas and Happy new year.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Felix <email address hidden> wrote:

> Removing fglrx and re-installing xserver-xorg-video-ati worked for my
> Mobility 9600 (r350). Thanks.
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in AMD fglrx video driver: Triaged
> Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: Fix Released
> Status in Update Manager: Invalid
> Status in "fglrx-installer" source package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> Status in "update-manager" source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Committed
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Jaunty: Triaged
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> Using fglrx-installer 2:8.543-0ubuntu4, r3xx hardware such as Radeon 9500,
> Mobility Radeon 9700 and similar don't work
>
> They are not explicitly listed in the modaliases, so they will not be
> offered by Jockey. In the past, this hardware did work with the fglrx
> driver. Now the fglrx driver indicates memory errors when trying to load.
>
> Here is a snippet of what the memory error will look like:
> [ 1024.699204] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers:
> 1169 MBytes.
> [ 1024.700616] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
> [ 1024.700683] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when
> allocating device heads
> [ 1024.700757] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices
> failed
>
> WORKAROUND:
> You'll need to completely remove the proprietary driver and [re]install the
> open-source driver. As a plus, many users report improved performance with
> the open-source drivers in Intrepid versus ATI's fglrx in Hardy for 2D
> purposes such as normal desktop use and video playback.
> 1. sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
> 2. sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati
> xserver-xorg-video-radeon
> 3. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
> 4. Restart.
>
> TEST CASE:
> 1. Install intrepid w/ r3xx hardware.
> 2. attempt to activate fglrx and reboot verifying unable to start X
> 3. Activate intrepid-proposed
> 4. update to new fglrx version, verify that X starts up properly
>

--
Aitor Juan Martín García
Consultor SAP
Tlf: 606746626
aitor.martingarcia # gmail dot com

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

It may just be my lack of knowledge but how come KWin's 3d desktop's effects work well with the OSS drivers?

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shanakadu (shanakadu) wrote :

Hi,
I have tried your suggestion, and for my computer it didn´t work , well it´s
"work", but without 3d hardware accelaration - when i say without 3d
hardware accelarion i means than 3D games, 3d programs the work really slow.
Fglrx is the official driver from ATI , so i think we need to focus in it
for resolv it, and this bug it´s about it.,that is all,

Thanks ,Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2009.

P.D.: I will use OSS solution if it worked for me .

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:32 PM, David Taylor <email address hidden>wrote:

> It may just be my lack of knowledge but how come KWin's 3d desktop's
> effects work well with the OSS drivers?
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in AMD fglrx video driver: Triaged
> Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: Fix Released
> Status in Update Manager: Invalid
> Status in "fglrx-installer" source package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> Status in "update-manager" source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Committed
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Jaunty: Triaged
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> Using fglrx-installer 2:8.543-0ubuntu4, r3xx hardware such as Radeon 9500,
> Mobility Radeon 9700 and similar don't work
>
> They are not explicitly listed in the modaliases, so they will not be
> offered by Jockey. In the past, this hardware did work with the fglrx
> driver. Now the fglrx driver indicates memory errors when trying to load.
>
> Here is a snippet of what the memory error will look like:
> [ 1024.699204] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers:
> 1169 MBytes.
> [ 1024.700616] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
> [ 1024.700683] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when
> allocating device heads
> [ 1024.700757] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices
> failed
>
> WORKAROUND:
> You'll need to completely remove the proprietary driver and [re]install the
> open-source driver. As a plus, many users report improved performance with
> the open-source drivers in Intrepid versus ATI's fglrx in Hardy for 2D
> purposes such as normal desktop use and video playback.
> 1. sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
> 2. sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati
> xserver-xorg-video-radeon
> 3. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
> 4. Restart.
>
> TEST CASE:
> 1. Install intrepid w/ r3xx hardware.
> 2. attempt to activate fglrx and reboot verifying unable to start X
> 3. Activate intrepid-proposed
> 4. update to new fglrx version, verify that X starts up properly
>

--
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Consultor SAP
Tlf: 606746626
aitor.martingarcia # gmail dot com

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Mark Hicks (mhicks) wrote :
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   Friends... I'm a newbee... and I have some simple questions. I'm using
the fglrx driver with a ATI Radeon FireGL Mobility card on an IBM Thinkpad
T42.

I want to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and I am assuming that I need to go back
to the opensource driver before I upgrade, else a bug in the upgrade process
will cause the process to fault. Is that right?

From Synaptic I removed the xorg-driver-fglrx and rebooted. This came up in
low res mode with a VESA driver. I didn't know where to go from there to
load and config the opensource driver so I went back into Synaptic and
reinstalled the flgrx driver. How do I remove the fglrx and install and
config the opensource driver?

Thanks for bearing with me.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:15 AM, shanakadu <email address hidden> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have tried your suggestion, and for my computer it didn´t work , well
> it´s
> "work", but without 3d hardware accelaration - when i say without 3d
> hardware accelarion i means than 3D games, 3d programs the work really
> slow.
> Fglrx is the official driver from ATI , so i think we need to focus in it
> for resolv it, and this bug it´s about it.,that is all,
>
> Thanks ,Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2009.
>
> P.D.: I will use OSS solution if it worked for me .
>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:32 PM, David Taylor
> <email address hidden>wrote:
>
> > It may just be my lack of knowledge but how come KWin's 3d desktop's
> > effects work well with the OSS drivers?
> >
> > --
> > r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > of a duplicate bug.
> >
> > Status in AMD fglrx video driver: Triaged
> > Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: Fix Released
> > Status in Update Manager: Invalid
> > Status in "fglrx-installer" source package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> > Status in "update-manager" source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> > Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Committed
> > Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Released
> > Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Jaunty: Triaged
> > Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released
> >
> > Bug description:
> > Using fglrx-installer 2:8.543-0ubuntu4, r3xx hardware such as Radeon
> 9500,
> > Mobility Radeon 9700 and similar don't work
> >
> > They are not explicitly listed in the modaliases, so they will not be
> > offered by Jockey. In the past, this hardware did work with the fglrx
> > driver. Now the fglrx driver indicates memory errors when trying to
> load.
> >
> > Here is a snippet of what the memory error will look like:
> > [ 1024.699204] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers:
> > 1169 MBytes.
> > [ 1024.700616] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
> > [ 1024.700683] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when
> > allocating device heads
> > [ 1024.700757] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices
> > failed
> >
> > WORKAROUND:
> > You'll need to completely remove the proprietary driver and [re]install
> the
> > open-source driver. As a plus, many users report improved performance
> with
> > t...

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ale (ale-phollaio) wrote :

Same issue here, some output:

$ uname -r
2.6.27-11-generic

$ aticonfig --initial
Segmentation fault

$ lspci | grep "ATI"
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

$ fglrxinfo
X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
  Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
  Serial number of failed request: 10
  Current serial number in output stream: 10

$ tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.55.2
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: UNSUPPORTED-8.552
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Oct 28 2008 21:22:33
(WW) This ATI Proprietary Linux Driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.0
(WW) Video driver ABI version of the X server is 4.1
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(EE) No devices detected.

$ sudo modprobe fglrx
FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory

$ tail /var/log/messages
Jan 2 16:23:54 phollaio kernel: [ 221.805593] aticonfig[8411]: segfault at c ip 08053d0d sp bfafc7e0 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+35000]

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Esteban00 (esteban-diezlaiz) wrote :

So to be clear for anyone : propriatary driver [currently 8.12, fglrx drivers from10 decmeber 2008 ] doesn't work in ubuntu intrepid ibex (for the record "stop using those s**** code names ...") 8.10 for R3** chipset. I've only tried on a mobility 9700 /9600 [M10/M11] and a mobility X1400 [i asume r5*** chipset] .

Where is the problem : i don't know ...

Open source drivers ie 'xserver-xorg-video-ati' or 'xserver-xorg-video-ati'
DO work for r3*** and r5***.

Restrictions : for X1400 [only this card ] no hardware acceleration ... wait till febrary and maybe ati will have something that will realy work for yopou ...

for other R5*** : I have no responce ...

for Mobility M10/M11 -> the open source driver work so use it and pray that 9.1 ati propriatary driver support your chipset because open source driver do suck for 3D.

Nevertheless : open drivers work very well for 2d, compiz desktop ! so use them !

i would like to thank people that wrote open source ati drivers. I use them right now, and they are the best. I understand optimisation is dificult in a "closed souce" world so i don't blame your work !

I hope this would help someone !

Esteban

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YvesDelannoy (yves-delannoy) wrote :

For people who do not manage to make the free driver work, here was my path after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 on a ASUS M6N equipped with a Mobility radeon 9600 : I did no pre-upgrade config (except getting all my packages up to date), then the new 8.10 distro started in VGA mode, open a term and switch from the proprietary 'fglrx' driver to the free 'radeon' driver :

1. sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
2. sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
3. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
4. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
   --> change Driver "fglrx" to Driver "radeon" in the "Device" section
5. Restart

I think that step 4., which was not documented in the first post to this discussion, is only necessary when you changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand (which was my case), else maybe it's automaticwhen you install xserver-xorg-video-ati ...

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Pet (petbb) wrote :
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Esteban00 (esteban-diezlaiz) wrote :

didn't work for me same ABI problem ...

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NiksaVel (nikola-leder) wrote :

works here on my laptop with mobility radeon 9700 - but the regular install wouldn't complete successfully, somethink about couldn't insert kernel module.. blah..

anyways I reran it with --buildpkg ubuntu/intrepid, got the debs... the debs wouldn't install becuase dependancies issues. than apt-get -f install and reinstall debs and we're rolling :) working fine, control center and all...

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Hali (sahaly) wrote :

Can you post a full set of instructions ?

> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:00:20 +0000
> From: <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Subject: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
>
> works here on my laptop with mobility radeon 9700 - but the regular
> install wouldn't complete successfully, somethink about couldn't insert
> kernel module.. blah..
>
> anyways I reran it with --buildpkg ubuntu/intrepid, got the debs... the
> debs wouldn't install becuase dependancies issues. than apt-get -f
> install and reinstall debs and we're rolling :) working fine, control
> center and all...
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in AMD fglrx video driver: Triaged
> Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: Fix Released
> Status in Update Manager: Invalid
> Status in “fglrx-installer” source package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> Status in “update-manager” source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Committed
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Jaunty: Triaged
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> Using fglrx-installer 2:8.543-0ubuntu4, r3xx hardware such as Radeon 9500, Mobility Radeon 9700 and similar don't work
>
> They are not explicitly listed in the modaliases, so they will not be offered by Jockey. In the past, this hardware did work with the fglrx driver. Now the fglrx driver indicates memory errors when trying to load.
>
> Here is a snippet of what the memory error will look like:
> [ 1024.699204] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1169 MBytes.
> [ 1024.700616] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
> [ 1024.700683] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
> [ 1024.700757] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed
>
> WORKAROUND:
> You'll need to completely remove the proprietary driver and [re]install the open-source driver. As a plus, many users report improved performance with the open-source drivers in Intrepid versus ATI's fglrx in Hardy for 2D purposes such as normal desktop use and video playback.
> 1. sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
> 2. sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
> 3. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
> 4. Restart.
>
> TEST CASE:
> 1. Install intrepid w/ r3xx hardware.
> 2. attempt to activate fglrx and reboot verifying unable to start X
> 3. Activate intrepid-proposed
> 4. update to new fglrx version, verify that X starts up properly

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Filipe Sousa (natros) wrote :

@NiksaVel
Are you sure about --buildpkg ubuntu/intrepid?

The installer does not recognize the distribution
"Error: The distribution ubuntu is not supported"

Ubuntu 8.10

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Filipe Sousa (natros) wrote :

But using the GUI install works. I now have my ATI 9700 mobility working on my laptop with ubuntu 8.10. Many thanks to the user that posted the link to the beta driver.

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NiksaVel (nikola-leder) wrote :

lol... forgot that we have the GUI install now... anyways just as an info, when using from CLI you start the installer as

sudo sh **name of the file**.run

if you want to generate packages for a specific distro than you run the same command with --buildpkg **specificname**

to get a list of the distros that you can get packages for you run it once again with the same command but with --listpkg (sudo sh FILENAME --listpkg)

btw... I think it's refusing because it's Ubuntu/intrepid with a capital U... not at the ATI comp atm so can't check...

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Michał Tkacz (mehow) wrote :

This beta driver worked for me too. I have a notebook with Mobility Radeon 9700. Use this command to generate packages:

sudo ./Linux_catalyst_9.2_CES_09_preview_driver.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/intrepid

I had no problems during the installation.

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paulomaia (paulo-maia-di) wrote :

No good for me with a mobility radeon 9600

Generated the packages, installed the dependencies and the debs but after restarting the screen just went blank on the gdm login...

Maybe with the next release...

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Marco (0m3g4) wrote :

I tested Linux_catalyst_9.2_CES_09_preview_driver.run on Jaunty with mobility 9700
- re-added support for r3xx hw
- fglrx loaded fine but in Xorg.0.log i have this:

(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0).

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Esteban00 (esteban-diezlaiz) wrote :

Ok, i managed the "preview dirver" to work. The problem was my dual screen configuration file.
Nevertheless i'll wait for the "official" driver to change my laptop config.

The way i made it was [excuse me if i make some 'speeling' mistakes i making i from memory]:

./$preview_drivers_name$.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/intrepid (--listpkg will give you a list of supported package, Ubuntu 8.10 claims to be supported but in experimental process )

next install all generated deb
first fglrx-kernel-source$
then fglrx modaliases$
both xorg-driver-fglrx_8.580-$ and xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.580$ [not sure if the *-dev* package is needed. Should be for devellopers only --openGL stuff ...]
then libamdxvba1$ and finaly fglrx-amdccle$$

configuration : simply do a 'sudo aticonfig --initial'

Some features are buggy, like amdccle that begun giving a seg fault when i put some dual screen config in it.

test those drivers at last they install properly without 'ABI' errors when the aticonfig --initial is done !

Cheers and thank to Pet who gave the preview driver link.

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Francesco P. (fpedersoli) wrote :

I installed the ATI 9.2 driver and all work fine: IBM notebook model T42 with ATI Mobility 9600 and Ubuntu 8.10+proposed update.

Command I used are:
sudo sh ./Linux_catalyst_9.2_CES_09_preview_driver.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/intrepid

sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.580-0ubuntu1_i386.deb fglrx-kernel-source_8.580-0ubuntu1_i386.deb fglrx-amdcccle_8.580-0ubuntu1_i386.deb

sudo aticonfig --initial -f

aticonfig display a warning; I ignore and restart. All was right, even CCC, and Jockey recognize the proprietary driver correctly.
The system is stable, till now, and 3D performance better than before.

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Patrick M. Jordan (ubuntu-bugs-antistatic) wrote :

I also installed the 9.2 driver on a T42 with the Mobility 9600 M10. The system is stable, the driver's recognized by jockey-kde, and GL performance is very much improved. I'm using UT2004 to stress-test the driver, and all seems to be well.

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Moses Moore (moses-mozai) wrote :

moses@jomi:~# lspci |grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

I can also report success, although there were some bumps. And what I did was certainly not the same as Francesco.

 ./Linux_catalyst_9.2_CES_09_preview_driver.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/8.10
  dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.580-0ubuntu1_i386.deb fglrx-modaliases_8.580-0ubuntu1_i386.deb \
    fglrx-amdcccle_8.580-0ubuntu1_i386.deb libamdxvba1_8.580-0ubuntu1_i386.deb

At this point trying to load the fglrx module gave me "stub_not_present" errors. I had to reboot. After rebooting, Xorg (that is, the login screen of gdm) would show a garbled version of the splash screen, and would not respond to keyboard input. Screen would not un-garble after killing X. I rebooted into single-user mode, and trying using "aticonfig --initial", then "startx". Garbled version of splash screen again, and could not kill.

I examined /etc/X11/xorg.conf myself with /usr/bin/vi, and saw that the ATI config tool created two "Device" sections (one for "fglrx" and one for "ati") with the same name, and removed all "InputDevice" sections (no keyboard, no moues, no touchpad). I had to rewrite the xorg.conf file by hand.

Tried to use Section "Device" with Driver "ati" first... Xorg launched with half the screen in a black-and-white checkerboard pattern, and locked up. Rebooted, changed it to "Driver fglrx", and launched Xorg. Works like a charm now, hardware accelleration makes the OpenGL screensavers run quite speedy. It was a harrowing experience getting to this point, but hey, these drivers and aticonfig tool are release candidates, not ready for prime-time.

And for some reason I haven't figured out yet, I can't use the OSS ati/radeon drivers anymore.

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Alexander Reil (dummy-starnberg-mail) wrote :

Hi folks,

as so many i ran into the same problem by upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10.

lspci -vvnn says:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [1002:4e50]

I purged fglrx as wrote above. I did apt-get clean, to be sure everything is downloaded. I purged xserver-xorg-*

I made a fresh install of xserver-org.
My /etc/X11/xorg.conf is virgin (dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org).

I am pretty sure to have no propriatary ati-drivers left. But X still hangs after a few seconds.

No error in /var/log/X.0.log, co error in dmesg, too.

Any hints?

Thanks in advance,

Alexander

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Francesco P. (fpedersoli) wrote :

Moses, I'm not sure about it, but isn't it that you get the "stub error" because you use the "--buildpkg Ubuntu/8.10" parameter? If I'm not wrong the expected parameter is "--buildpkg Ubuntu/intrepid".

Ciao Francesco.

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

Yep the preview driver works for me on my 9600 albet the text (font seems smaller) and some colours (the Opera O looks red) are a little odd but thats to be expected for a preview driver.

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Alexander Reil (dummy-starnberg-mail) wrote :

OK, the open-source-driver works with my ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10].
The reaseon, why X was freezing a few seconds after starting was another bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/220345

Sorry for posting here and thanks to axel for a hint via e-mail.

Alexander

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Marco (0m3g4) wrote :

EDIT POST wrote on 2009-01-24 (fglrx 9.2 + Jaunty)

tried to install with:
--buildpkg Ubuntu/Jaunty (method 1)
catalyst installer (method 2)

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
        compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.58.2
        Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[atiddxSetup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.-1.901, required X.org 7.4.-1.906
(II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)

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NiksaVel (nikola-leder) wrote :

I've installed the driver and got it running under kubuntu 8.10 however I've noticed a considerable drop in FPS when running videos in fullscreen via VLC (didn't try anything else, cuz I wanna use VLC)... can any1 confirm this? It's running normal in windowed but it's all slow and choppy in fullscreen...

The CPU is at approx. 50% use when running so it's not the CPU limit...

Running it on mobility 9700 on a centrino 1.6 laptop with 1gig ram

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Marco (0m3g4) wrote :

catalyst 9.1 out: no R300 support

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Noiano (noiano) wrote :

omega wrote:
> catalyst 9.1 out: no R300 support

I got the same error: (EE) No devices detected...I used the manual
method with 2.6.27-11-generic kernel

I have attached the full xorg log

That's gettin annoying :-(

Noiano

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David Taylor (me-davidandrewtaylor) wrote :

The ATI QA team must be non existant or not testing for the full range of hardware they say they are.

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Andrew (arosborough) wrote :

Last weekend I decided to attempt to install the beta driver that Pet linked on 2009-01-23, after seeing that it solved issues for mobility 9700 users.

I was able to successfully install, and after failing to configure dual head correctly, was able to at run startx as root and see a basic grey background and cursor at a fairly high resolution (between 1024x768 and 1400x900). When I decided to go back to runlevel 5 (was previously at run level 3 to test), the gdm login was not able to render correctly and X11 had to be killed w/ ctrl backspace.

At this point I remember seeing some notice that my ext3 file system had been remounted read only due to errors. I ran e2fsck which proceded to move a majority of my filesystem to lost+found, and did not complete successfully several times using the -y or -a flags (it stopped responding for more than an hour on cloning one file w/ multiply claimed inodes). In the end I lost my etc, usr, and sys folders (probably more). Luckily my home directory was left intact, and I backed it up to another partition.

I have attached an error log. As far as I could tell, I was able to load the fglrx beta module and get it to correctly display on my monitor briefly. However, it was not stable and potentially lead to my file system becoming corrupted.

I took this opportunity to install ubuntu 8.04, and I am not upgrading to 8.10 any time soon. Fglrx proprietary drivers work wonderfully in 8.04 LTS, but the xorg 7.4 issue was so frustrating that I was tempted to go out and get an nvidia card (hope you're reading ati). Hopefully new documentation from amd will include specs for the old r300 chipsets, and this will improve 3d and 2d support in the open source drivers significantly.

Some details about my system:

Motherboard: MSI Kt4v-l (ms-6712)
Graphics Card: Tyan 9700Pro
Memory: 3GB pc 2700

Thank you everyone who has been helping out on this issue.

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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

Removed from intrepid-proposed as per Mario's request.

Changed in fglrx-installer:
status: Fix Committed → Triaged
Bryce Harrington (bryce)
Changed in fglrx-installer:
status: Triaged → Won't Fix
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fanou (stephane-vernede) wrote :

I have an IBM thinkpad T40
lspci gives :
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]

I have tested the beta driver that Pet linked on 2009-01-23.
 sudo aticonfig --initial -f
gives
aticonfig: No supported adapters detected

apparently this card is not supported by the beta driver.
Is it possible to add this card on the list of unsuported cards?
Does anybody knows if there is an hope that ATI writes a Linux driver for this card?

Thanks

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Pizuz (florian-fahr) wrote :

Sorry to tell you, but support for your card has been dropped aeons ago and I don't think ATI plans to bring back support. Even the Windows driver doesn't support it anymore, as far as I know.

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jfelts (johnbfelts) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

7500 chip has been, and is still supported in the Windows driver. Not sure
what your talking about.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:58 AM, F-3582 <email address hidden> wrote:

> Sorry to tell you, but support for your card has been dropped aeons ago
> and I don't think ATI plans to bring back support. Even the Windows
> driver doesn't support it anymore, as far as I know.
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in AMD fglrx video driver: Triaged
> Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: Fix Released
> Status in Update Manager: Invalid
> Status in "fglrx-installer" source package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> Status in "update-manager" source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Intrepid: Won't Fix
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Released
> Status in fglrx-installer in Ubuntu Jaunty: Triaged
> Status in update-manager in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> Using fglrx-installer 2:8.543-0ubuntu4, r3xx hardware such as Radeon 9500,
> Mobility Radeon 9700 and similar don't work
>
> They are not explicitly listed in the modaliases, so they will not be
> offered by Jockey. In the past, this hardware did work with the fglrx
> driver. Now the fglrx driver indicates memory errors when trying to load.
>
> Here is a snippet of what the memory error will look like:
> [ 1024.699204] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers:
> 1169 MBytes.
> [ 1024.700616] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
> [ 1024.700683] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when
> allocating device heads
> [ 1024.700757] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices
> failed
>
> WORKAROUND:
> You'll need to completely remove the proprietary driver and [re]install the
> open-source driver. As a plus, many users report improved performance with
> the open-source drivers in Intrepid versus ATI's fglrx in Hardy for 2D
> purposes such as normal desktop use and video playback.
> 1. sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
> 2. sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati
> xserver-xorg-video-radeon
> 3. sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
> 4. Restart.
>
> TEST CASE:
> 1. Install intrepid w/ r3xx hardware.
> 2. attempt to activate fglrx and reboot verifying unable to start X
> 3. Activate intrepid-proposed
> 4. update to new fglrx version, verify that X starts up properly
>

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fanou (stephane-vernede) wrote :

Sorry to tell you, but support for your card has been dropped aeons ago and I don't think ATI plans to bring back support. Even the Windows driver doesn't support it anymore, as far as I know.

Thanks F-3582 for your answer.
I didn't have much hope about it.
By the way does somebodoy knows if it is possible to activate the pbuffer on such a card with intrepid
(see post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1064237)

thanks

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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

This isn't really a release blocker for Jaunty. update-manager transitions r3xx users to -ati, which works well enough. This is a target of opportunity at most.

Changed in fglrx-installer:
importance: High → Medium
status: Triaged → Won't Fix
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Neal Gompa (ngompa13) wrote :

Nope. Its a target of stupidity at most, and target of problems at least. None of the FOSS drivers support OpenGL 2(.1) or OpenGL 3.0. The ATI FOSS drivers do not support FBOs, which are needed by quite a few OpenGL-based games, especially emulators of game consoles. If you can bring up full OpenGL 2.1 + GLSL support by Jaunty for the FOSS driver, THEN it would be a target of opportunity. Otherwise you are just damning ATI card users. Besides, it seems that the FOSS driver is horribly unoptimized on OpenGL with Wine. fglrx has wonderful OpenGL/WineD3D performance.

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Neal Gompa (ngompa13) wrote :

Besides, Catalyst 9.2 finally fixes this issue, however, it will not work without a screen configuration set in xorg.conf. So in a future Ubuntu update, a screen configuration MUST be saved into xorg.conf for it to work...

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Steve Langasek (vorlon) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 01:09:10AM -0000, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Nope. Its a target of stupidity at most,

This is not an appropriate tone to take in bug reports. Please refrain from
such remarks in the future; they will only serve to get you ignored.

> None of the FOSS drivers support OpenGL 2(.1) or OpenGL 3.0.

And the binary-only driver doesn't support this hardware. This is not under
the control of the Ubuntu team.

--
Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/
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Arkhitekton (arkhitekton) wrote :

Following on from the reports that Catalyst 9.2 fixes the problems: Unfortunately it does not fix the problem on my Dell Inspiron 9100. lspci reports the graphics card as:
     01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
The laptop has a fresh installation of Ubuntu 8.10 from the alternative CD. The Proposed packages have been installed, as described earlier in this bug thread. uname -a reports:
Linux tux9100 2.6.27-12-generic #1 SMP Thu Feb 5 09:26:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

The ATI Catalyst 9.2 Linux driver installer, ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run, was downloaded from the ATI site. The installer was run and the machine rebooted. I open the System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers window. The ATI drivers were shown to be present but not enabled. At this point compiz.real failed and apport reported a bug which has been filed as Bug #332644. I then tried to enable the ATI driver. Apport then reported that:
     package xorg-driver-fglrx 2:8.543-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: EOF on stdin at conffile prompt
and lead me back here as a likely previously reported bug.

Anyway, I wanted others to know that Catalyst 9.2 might not be the fix they hoped. I realise that the Ubuntu maintainers can't do much about this - but thanks for your efforts so far. Its an ATI problem. Hopefully ATI read the thread and will try and get a fix, or open their API.

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stomlin (sethtomlin) wrote :

9.2 fixed the problem for me. I have a Asus z80k with a mobile 9700 pro (rv350)
I installed them manually using the install method here... http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
Hooorraaay!

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hegemon8 (pantokrata2) wrote :

Thanks. I had major problems with graphics in my Kubuntu Jaunty (alpha4) and Radeon X 700 Pro on PCI Express. No OpenGL apps (ok - games mostlly :) )were working as in Interpid. This Workaround solved my issues :)

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Noiano (noiano) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

stomlin wrote:
> 9.2 fixed the problem for me. I have a Asus z80k with a mobile 9700 pro (rv350)
> I installed them manually using the install method here... http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
> Hooorraaay!

Everything is ok also with ati radeon 9500 pro. One little problem: the
intial login screen has a resolution of 1600x1200 which is out of the
range of my lcd screen. How do I set as default resolution 1024x768?

thanks

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Neal Gompa (ngompa13) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Noiano <email address hidden> wrote:

> stomlin wrote:
> > 9.2 fixed the problem for me. I have a Asus z80k with a mobile 9700 pro
> (rv350)
> > I installed them manually using the install method here...
> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
> > Hooorraaay!
>
> Everything is ok also with ati radeon 9500 pro. One little problem: the
> intial login screen has a resolution of 1600x1200 which is out of the
> range of my lcd screen. How do I set as default resolution 1024x768?
>
> thanks
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

Make a subsection in the Screen section and insert only modes that you want
it to be able to access, setting it from highest to lowest. Alternatively,
use aticonfig to do it.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package fglrx-installer - 2:8.600-0ubuntu1

---------------
fglrx-installer (2:8.600-0ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low

  * New upstream release. (Closes LP: #313027, #314600)
    - Fixes LP: #253988, #179042, #241176, #284408, #287229, #296497,
      #288620, #289628
  * README.Debian: Update the update procedure a bit

 -- Bryce Harrington <email address hidden> Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:40:42 -0700

Changed in fglrx-installer:
status: Won't Fix → Fix Released
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Bryce Harrington (bryce) wrote :

Actually this one is not closed quite yet.

Changed in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Jaunty):
status: Fix Released → Triaged
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Laurent Bigonville (bigon) wrote :

I think that this bug will never be fixed, AMD/ATI will dropped pre-r500 support next month and as the current version doesn't support Xorg 1.6...

See: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r500_legacy&num=1

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Ingomar Wesp (ingomar) wrote :

Since it will be a long time until the OSS ati driver delivers reasonable OpenGL support on r300-based cards, this really is a bummer. People who don't know how to install an older X Server are basically forced to stay with 8.04 if they want fast 3D graphics. And considering all the r300-based notebooks out there, buying a new graphics card is often not an option :(

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paulomaia (paulo-maia-di) wrote :

They can actually stay with 8.10.
At least for my mobility radeon 9600 everything is ok with this last
driver (except dual monitor support)...

Ingomar Wesp wrote:
> Since it will be a long time until the OSS ati driver delivers
> reasonable OpenGL support on r300-based cards, this really is a bummer.
> People who don't know how to install an older X Server are basically
> forced to stay with 8.04 if they want fast 3D graphics. And considering
> all the r300-based notebooks out there, buying a new graphics card is
> often not an option :(
>
>

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Hanno Zysik (h.mth) wrote :

I wonder if it is too hard to do name-version packages like for nvidia packages. :)
See: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all

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Neal Gompa (ngompa13) wrote :

I would suggest that if possible we could hold in catalyst 9.3 for r300-r500
support, since those were dropped in 9.4.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Hanno Meyer-Thurow <email address hidden> wrote:

> I wonder if it is too hard to do name-version packages like for nvidia
> packages. :)
> See:
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
>
> --
> r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284408
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

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Pizuz (florian-fahr) wrote :

That would be nice, but unfortunately impossible because of the previously mentioned incompatibility with XServer 1.6 which will be introduced in Ubuntu 9.04.

Didn't I read somewhere that AMD had intended to keep a legacy branch that supposedly was to be updated every three months? What happened to those plans?

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Bryce Harrington (bryce) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:34:43AM -0000, F-3582 wrote:
> That would be nice, but unfortunately impossible because of the
> previously mentioned incompatibility with XServer 1.6 which will be
> introduced in Ubuntu 9.04.
>
> Didn't I read somewhere that AMD had intended to keep a legacy branch
> that supposedly was to be updated every three months? What happened to
> those plans?

I've never heard any such plans. nvidia does that though, maybe that's
what you're thinking of?

Bryce

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Pizuz (florian-fahr) wrote :

I read that on Heise a month ago, just prior to those announcements that AMD were to drop support for those chips entirely.

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Neal Gompa (ngompa13) wrote : Re: [Bug 284408] Re: r3xx Hardware does not work with fglrx [EPR#257839]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:35 AM, F-3582 <email address hidden> wrote:

> I read that on Heise a month ago, just prior to those announcements that
> AMD were to drop support for those chips entirely.

Then it looks like we will be leaving them out cold as far as OpenGL 2.1
support then. None of the existing FOSS drivers support OpenGL 2.1, and as
far as I know, everybody is focused on bringing Gallium3D in to offer that
support, but it seems it won't be ready before April distro release. Really,
that leaves two options, either use Git Mesa code with Gallium3D and hope
for the best, or hold back Xserver to version 1.5, which I doubt will
happen. However, something DOES need to be done about this.

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Jonathan Harker (jonathanharker) wrote :

I get the memory error with my Compaq V2402. Radeon Xpress 200M, jaunty devel, xorg-driver-fglrx 2:8.600-0ubuntu1 and kernel 2.6.28-11-generic i686.

root@zing: modprobe fglrx
[ 3951.240066] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1765 MBytes.
[ 3951.240238] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
[ 3951.240290] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
[ 3951.240343] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

Another possible dup over at #346803

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Brett Johnson (linuxturtle) wrote :

I've got the same problem on my HP/Compaq 6910p with a Mobility Radeon X2300 and jaunty,

Note that fglrx worked swimmingly on Intrepid on this laptop.

 [10857.047402] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1856 MBytes.
 [10857.048568] [fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
 [10857.048576] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
 [10857.048584] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

> uname -a
Linux nandi 2.6.28-11-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 27 09:00:52 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

> dpkg -l | grep fglrx
ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:8.600-0ubuntu2 Catalyst Control Center for the ATI graphics accelerators
ii fglrx-kernel-source 2:8.600-0ubuntu2 Kernel module source for the ATI graphics accelerators
ii fglrx-modaliases 2:8.600-0ubuntu2 Identifiers supported by the ATI graphics driver
ii xorg-driver-fglrx 2:8.600-0ubuntu2 Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerators

> lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M64-S [Mobility Radeon X2300]

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Bryce Harrington (bryce) wrote :

AMD no longer supports pre-r600 hardware on fglrx, so we're closing this bug as wontfix at this time.

Going forward, Ubuntu will be focusing efforts around -ati for this hardware.

Changed in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Jaunty):
status: Triaged → Won't Fix
Bryce Harrington (bryce)
Changed in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Won't Fix
Changed in fglrx:
status: Triaged → Won't Fix
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DougL (dlarue) wrote :

this is tough and problematic and we were very lucky to have 8.04(LTS) 3D accelerated fglrx working. But it means we can't get updated software via Ubuntu and can only run what's already in the repo. It means that if you require 3D acceleration, you/we are stuck on 8.04 forever. The way it seems is the cause is because ATI/AMD stopped supporting some popular graphics chips and that means they not only stopped adding fixes but they stopped bringing the existing driver forward to new X11 server versions. Combine that with Canonical moving quite fast with updates and moving X11 forward and you have orphaned users who have to stay out of date or abandon good hardware and purchase new hardware which is currently supported. Desktop users can just throw out a card, laptop users must throw out the entire computer.

This is not good and with 10s of millions of Linux users and the number growing quickly, this is going to be a much larger problem. Isn't there a way to bring older versions of X forward to help ease the pain or are kernel ties also problematic?

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Carey Underwood (cwillu) wrote :

The release notes don't say anything about the drop in support. It's causing confusion.

Changed in ubuntu-release-notes:
status: Fix Released → Confirmed
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shell (shell-pcspinnt) wrote :

Does anybody know if there will be a solution. I have a dell inspiron 6400 with an ati x1400 and i have the same error.

When i try to load the the fglrx module i get

FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory

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vyncere (vyncere) wrote :

Sorry for the "Nominate for release Karmic". I misunderstood the effect of this action.
I just wanted to report/link this problem to Karmic too.

1) Hardware
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M10 NT [FireGL Mobility T2] (rev 80)

2) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.", compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.66.10
Package: xorg-driver-fglrx
New: yes
State: not installed
Version: 2:8.660-0ubuntu4

3) Modprobing error
FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory

mattrenfer (mr-renfer)
description: updated
Changed in ubuntu-release-notes:
status: Confirmed → Invalid
assignee: Mario Limonciello (superm1) → nobody
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