Usability issues with "locked" files

[octalman]

Evince has some usability issues with "locked" files:

1. When a "locked" PDF is saved, it cannot be saved to iself, as LibreOffice does for ordinary files. This is an issue with IRS and State of Texas filing documents. They can be edited after having been saved, but must be manually saved to a different file and the original file manually deleted -- a great opportunity for screwups. I suppose that's "reasonable", but being a mere mortal, I find that I often must edit these things, sometimes several times, before finally printing them for submission. Keeping up with the saved versions is a real hassle.

2. Besides being a hassle, it's a big time-waster saving an edited locked government form. A semi-automagical renaming mechanism would be a great help.

3. Edited PDF's are saved with the same timestamp as the source file. This makes it more difficult to distinguish between saved versions. It's also misleading, with potential legal repercussions for the user. There's no way to distinguish as to when the file was actually created in its new persona.

[Paul White (paulw2u)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. We are sorry that we do not always have the capacity to look at all reported bugs in a timely manner. You reported this bug some time ago and there have been many changes in Ubuntu since that time. Your problem may have been fixed with some of the updates.

It would help us a lot if you could test on a currently supported Ubuntu version. When you test it and it is still an issue, kindly upload the updated logs by running only once in a terminal:

apport-collect 1438011

and then change the status of the bug back to "New".

Please add any additional information that you think might be relevant. Alternatively, please confirm that this is no longer a problem and that we can close the bug report. If we do not hear from you this bug report will expire in approximately 60 days time.

Thank you again
Paul White
[Ubuntu Bug Squad]

[octalman (octalman)]

I regret that I'm presently unable to test.  My install is Ubuntu 14 (though up-to-date).  I've been ill the past two years and not been able to keep up.  It looks like it will be longer still before I can test or update.  Best wishes.

Wilbur Killebrew

On Jul 21, 2019, 5:55 AM, at 5:55 AM, Paul White <email address hidden> wrote:
>Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
>Ubuntu better. We are sorry that we do not always have the capacity to
>look at all reported bugs in a timely manner. You reported this bug
>some
>time ago and there have been many changes in Ubuntu since that time.
>Your problem may have been fixed with some of the updates.
>
>It would help us a lot if you could test on a currently supported
>Ubuntu
>version. When you test it and it is still an issue, kindly upload the
>updated logs by running only once in a terminal:
>
>apport-collect 1438011
>
>and then change the status of the bug back to "New".
>
>Please add any additional information that you think might be relevant.
>Alternatively, please confirm that this is no longer a problem and that
>we can close the bug report. If we do not hear from you this bug report
>will expire in approximately 60 days time.
>
>Thank you again
>Paul White
>[Ubuntu Bug Squad]
>
>** Changed in: evince (Ubuntu)
> Status: New => Incomplete
>
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>Title:
> document viewer
>
>Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
> Incomplete
>
>Bug description:
> Evince has some usability issues with "locked" files:
>
> 1. When a "locked" PDF is saved, it cannot be saved to iself, as
> LibreOffice does for ordinary files. This is an issue with IRS and
> State of Texas filing documents. They can be edited after having been
> saved, but must be manually saved to a different file and the original
> file manually deleted -- a great opportunity for screwups. I suppose
> that's "reasonable", but being a mere mortal, I find that I often must
> edit these things, sometimes several times, before finally printing
> them for submission. Keeping up with the saved versions is a real
> hassle.
>
> 2. Besides being a hassle, it's a big time-waster saving an edited
> locked government form. A semi-automagical renaming mechanism would
> be a great help.
>
> 3. Edited PDF's are saved with the same timestamp as the source file.
> This makes it more difficult to distinguish between saved versions.
> It's also misleading, with potential legal repercussions for the user.
> There's no way to distinguish as to when the file was actually created
> in its new persona.
>
>To manage notifications about this bug go to:
>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1438011/+subscriptions

[Paul White (paulw2u)]

All understood Wilbur.
Sorry to hear of your circumstances.
Reverting status to new.