Ubuntu

Installer detects Finnish keyboard instead of Swedish

Reported by Torbjörn Söderstedt on 2006-03-19
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console-setup (Ubuntu)
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Bug Description

I installed Dapper Drake Flight 5 using the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows (replacing hoary for dapper). The same problem exists on the Breezy Badger install CD though.

During the installation process, I choose to "find keyboard layout by pressing some keys". This is the key sequence:
y
q
,c: no
_o: no
ö: yes
ö
~o: no

I don't know the difference between Swedish and Finnish keyboard layouts, but I would expect to at least choose between the two.

Kari Aliranta (kpaliran) wrote :

I can confirm this bug in reverse for the Xubuntu Edgy beta alternate install CD. Wanted to get Finnish layout, got Swedish, but no chance to choose.

But: the Finnish and the Swedish keyboards have exactly the same layout (see the link below, the first chapter in introduction) - what is the reason for having two separate layouts for them in the installer?

http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:48jOF4BTqmQJ:www.kotoistus.fi/avoimet/fi_kbspec_en_luonnos06.pdf+keyboard+layout+finnish+swedish&hl=fi&gl=fi&ct=clnk&cd=4

Well physically, Swedish and Finnish keyboards are exactly the same. Many vendors do label their keyboards for the Swedish market as "Swe/Fi", "Swedish/Finnish" or something similar. Other do have different labels even though the actual keyboards do not
differ.

Look at IBM for instance, a well reputed hardware vendor:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/globalization/topics/keyboards/KBD285.jsp
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/globalization/topics/keyboards/KBD153.jsp

Actually Swedish is one of the official languages of Finnland
and Sweden and Finnland have historical bonds that may
not remind all of a happy past but that still may make sense
for keeping the same physical layout for those two countries.
And since many memories are quite bad having two names
also is a sensible solution, even if it stirs up confusion for
computer users.

Having Ubuntu autodetect the "Finnish" layout when
using a Swedish keyboard may be good if you consider
the Finnish origin of Linux.

On the other hand, Linus Torvalds himself is speaking
Swedish as his mother tounge and there are twice
as many people speaking Swedish as those who
speak Finnish. Hence it is most likely that the user
who wants his Swedish/Finnish keyboard autodetected
also is speaking Swedish rather than Finnish.

From a technical perspective it would not only make
sense but also make life easier if we merged the
two layouts into one and explained the reason for
the end user whenever the keyboard layout issue
is configured or displayed.

Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 5/MacBook.

Installer detects Swedish keyboard layout instead of Finnish.

Maybe the layout should be called Finnish/Swedish.

RJ Clay (rjclay) wrote :

You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Can you try with latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance.

Changed in console-setup:
status: New → Incomplete
RJ Clay (rjclay) wrote :

We are closing this bug report because it lacks the information we need to investigate the problem, as described in the previous comments. Please reopen it if you can give us the missing information, and don't hesitate to submit bug reports in the future. To reopen the bug report you can click on the current status, under the Status column, and change the Status back to "New". Thanks again!

Changed in console-setup:
status: Incomplete → Invalid
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