Thanks, of course I have no idea what the Gnome fail safe mode is.

I have been disatisfied with Windows for many years now, it is often buggy
and just really top heavy.  I am really impressed with how Linux keeps
improving.  For instance, Ubuntu 8.04 Beta is much better at reading my NTFS
files, which is critical for any transition.  The biggest draw back at this
point is that more and more offices are going to Microsoft Exchange which
really locks one in.  The IT guys at my office said it worked and it worked
well and nothing else out there does what it does.  Damn.

Thanks Rob

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:23 PM, fleming746 <email address hidden> wrote:

> Hi
> Compiz is a set of programs used for managing the desktop and enabling the
> special effects. You use the Synaptic package manager to uninstall and
> install them(and all your other software). If you do not know where that
> is
> you find it in desktop menu under System>Administration>Synaptic Packager
> Manager. This has a search utility and you can search for compiz and it
> will
> list all the compiz packages on  your system. You right click on the
> package
> to get the list of available actions. All I did was choose the complete
> uninstall option(removes all settings as well as the software) and then
> reinstall. It seems that that did the trick. When doing this I was logged
> in
> using the Gnome failsafe desktop which does not need compiz.
>
> Hope this helps. By the way, once you get used to linux you'll love it. I
> took windows off my system 2 years ago and don't miss it at all. Have fun.
>
> Bob Fleming
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:07 PM, robbackus <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I am an almost total Linux novice.  I am running an ATI video
> card
> > and gather from your notes below that the crash is somehow related to
> > video.  I have no idea what the compiz programs are or how to reinstall
> > them.  I do find Ubuntu 8.04 more useful than 7.10, which was the first
> > Ubuntu that would actually install to my computer.  I think that in a
> few
> > more iterations Ubuntu will displace Windows on my machines.  But not
> yet.
> > So, what is compiz and how do I get the files to reinstall them?
> >
> > Thanks Rob Backus
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:49 PM, fleming746 <email address hidden>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I do not have the detailed information handy that you have but the
> crash
> > I
> > > had was also with compiz-real. It followed the update of the compiz
> > > programs
> > > on my Hardy Heron beta i386 system. I am using the Linux
> > 2.6.24-16-generic
> > > i686 kernel with Intel 915 graphics system on my motherboard. I was
> able
> > > to
> > > get a usable desktop using Gnome-failsafe. I tried a few measures that
> > did
> > > not work, however when I did a complete reinstall of all the compiz
> > > packages
> > > I was using my system was up and running properly again. It is now
> > several
> > > days and everything is running fine.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Amael <email address hidden> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I can confirm this bug with an NVidia 6800Go graphics card on Ubuntu
> > > > Hardy Heron beta i386. Crash in compiz.real after a first
> unsuccessful
> > > > login (white screen). I then killed X with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, and
> > > > logged in normally before getting this message.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > $ apt-cache policy compiz
> > > > compiz:
> > > >  Installé : 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4
> > > >  Candidat : 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4
> > > >  Table de version :
> > > >  *** 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4 0
> > > >        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
> > > >        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > > >
> > > > $ uname -a
> > > > Linux amael-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC
> > 2008
> > > > i686 GNU/Linux
> > > >
> > > > $ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new
> > > > nvidia-glx-new:
> > > >  Installé : 169.12+2.6.24.12-16.34
> > > >  Candidat : 169.12+2.6.24.12-16.34
> > > >  Table de version :
> > > >  *** 169.12+2.6.24.12-16.34 0
> > > >        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Packages
> > > >        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216043
> > > > You received this bug notification because you are a direct
> subscriber
> > > > of the bug.
> > > >
> > > > Status in Source Package "compiz" in Ubuntu: New
> > > >
> > > > Bug description:
> > > > Binary package hint: compiz
> > > >
> > > > Ubuntu Hardy Heron beta i386, following today's kernel and compix
> > > updates.
> > > > Crash in compiz.real.
> > > >
> > > > After login, white screen when desktop should appear. CTRL+ALT+F1
> can
> > > > bring up the terminal. Used sudo top to kill Xorg process. This
> > produced
> > > new
> > > > login screen. Change session to Gnome fail-safe works (nothing else
> > > does).
> > > > Fail-safe mode produces desktop, wireless works.
> > > >
> > > > At some point shortly after I begin working, a crash alert appears,
> > for
> > > > compiz.real. That's when I sent this message. At the time, I had
> > opened
> > > the
> > > > system monitor window, but I don't think that caused the crash.
> > > >
> > > > Under normal circumstances, my desktop uses flgrx (ATI) display
> > driver,
> > > > with only one workspace.
> > > >
> > > > compiz version  1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4. There was no package compiz.real
> or
> > > > compiz-real located by apt-cache policy.
> > > >
> > > > ProblemType: Crash
> > > > Architecture: i386
> > > > CrashCounter: 1
> > > > Date: Fri Apr 11 19:35:36 2008
> > > > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04
> > > > ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/compiz.real
> > > > Package: compiz-core 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4
> > > > PackageArchitecture: i386
> > > > ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --replace
> > > > --sm-client-id default0 core ccp
> > > > ProcEnviron:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
> > > >  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> > > >  SHELL=/bin/bash
> > > > Signal: 11
> > > > SourcePackage: compiz
> > > > Stacktrace:
> > > >  #0  0x08055a80 in ?? ()
> > > >  #1  0x0807c6d0 in ?? ()
> > > >  #2  0x00000003 in ?? ()
> > > >  #3  0x000000fa in ?? ()
> > > >  #4  0x00000000 in ?? ()
> > > > StacktraceTop:
> > > >  ?? ()
> > > >  ?? ()
> > > >  ?? ()
> > > >  ?? ()
> > > >  ?? ()
> > > > Title: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> > > > Uname: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686
> > > > UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy fuse lpadmin
> > > plugdev
> > > > video
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ** Attachment added: "unnamed"
> > >   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13468430/unnamed
> > >
> > > --
> > > compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216043
> > > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > > of the bug.
> > >
> > > Status in Source Package "compiz" in Ubuntu: New
> > >
> > > Bug description:
> > > Binary package hint: compiz
> > >
> > > Ubuntu Hardy Heron beta i386, following today's kernel and compix
> > updates.
> > > Crash in compiz.real.
> > >
> > > After login, white screen when desktop should appear. CTRL+ALT+F1 can
> > > bring up the terminal. Used sudo top to kill Xorg process. This
> produced
> > new
> > > login screen. Change session to Gnome fail-safe works (nothing else
> > does).
> > > Fail-safe mode produces desktop, wireless works.
> > >
> > > At some point shortly after I begin working, a crash alert appears,
> for
> > > compiz.real. That's when I sent this message. At the time, I had
> opened
> > the
> > > system monitor window, but I don't think that caused the crash.
> > >
> > > Under normal circumstances, my desktop uses flgrx (ATI) display
> driver,
> > > with only one workspace.
> > >
> > > compiz version  1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4. There was no package compiz.real or
> > > compiz-real located by apt-cache policy.
> > >
> > > ProblemType: Crash
> > > Architecture: i386
> > > CrashCounter: 1
> > > Date: Fri Apr 11 19:35:36 2008
> > > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04
> > > ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/compiz.real
> > > Package: compiz-core 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4
> > > PackageArchitecture: i386
> > > ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --replace
> > > --sm-client-id default0 core ccp
> > > ProcEnviron:
> > >
> > >
> >
>  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
> > >  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> > >  SHELL=/bin/bash
> > > Signal: 11
> > > SourcePackage: compiz
> > > Stacktrace:
> > >  #0  0x08055a80 in ?? ()
> > >  #1  0x0807c6d0 in ?? ()
> > >  #2  0x00000003 in ?? ()
> > >  #3  0x000000fa in ?? ()
> > >  #4  0x00000000 in ?? ()
> > > StacktraceTop:
> > >  ?? ()
> > >  ?? ()
> > >  ?? ()
> > >  ?? ()
> > >  ?? ()
> > > Title: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> > > Uname: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686
> > > UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy fuse lpadmin
> > plugdev
> > > video
> > >
> >
> >
> > ** Attachment added: "unnamed"
> >   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13469240/unnamed
> >
> > --
> > compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216043
> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > of the bug.
> >
> > Status in Source Package "compiz" in Ubuntu: New
> >
> > Bug description:
> > Binary package hint: compiz
> >
> > Ubuntu Hardy Heron beta i386, following today's kernel and compix
> updates.
> > Crash in compiz.real.
> >
> > After login, white screen when desktop should appear. CTRL+ALT+F1 can
> > bring up the terminal. Used sudo top to kill Xorg process. This produced
> new
> > login screen. Change session to Gnome fail-safe works (nothing else
> does).
> > Fail-safe mode produces desktop, wireless works.
> >
> > At some point shortly after I begin working, a crash alert appears, for
> > compiz.real. That's when I sent this message. At the time, I had opened
> the
> > system monitor window, but I don't think that caused the crash.
> >
> > Under normal circumstances, my desktop uses flgrx (ATI) display driver,
> > with only one workspace.
> >
> > compiz version  1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4. There was no package compiz.real or
> > compiz-real located by apt-cache policy.
> >
> > ProblemType: Crash
> > Architecture: i386
> > CrashCounter: 1
> > Date: Fri Apr 11 19:35:36 2008
> > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04
> > ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/compiz.real
> > Package: compiz-core 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4
> > PackageArchitecture: i386
> > ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --replace
> > --sm-client-id default0 core ccp
> > ProcEnviron:
> >
> >
>  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
> >  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> >  SHELL=/bin/bash
> > Signal: 11
> > SourcePackage: compiz
> > Stacktrace:
> >  #0  0x08055a80 in ?? ()
> >  #1  0x0807c6d0 in ?? ()
> >  #2  0x00000003 in ?? ()
> >  #3  0x000000fa in ?? ()
> >  #4  0x00000000 in ?? ()
> > StacktraceTop:
> >  ?? ()
> >  ?? ()
> >  ?? ()
> >  ?? ()
> >  ?? ()
> > Title: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> > Uname: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686
> > UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy fuse lpadmin
> plugdev
> > video
> >
>
>
> ** Attachment added: "unnamed"
>   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13475424/unnamed
>
> --
> compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216043
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in Source Package "compiz" in Ubuntu: New
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: compiz
>
> Ubuntu Hardy Heron beta i386, following today's kernel and compix updates.
> Crash in compiz.real.
>
> After login, white screen when desktop should appear. CTRL+ALT+F1 can
> bring up the terminal. Used sudo top to kill Xorg process. This produced new
> login screen. Change session to Gnome fail-safe works (nothing else does).
> Fail-safe mode produces desktop, wireless works.
>
> At some point shortly after I begin working, a crash alert appears, for
> compiz.real. That's when I sent this message. At the time, I had opened the
> system monitor window, but I don't think that caused the crash.
>
> Under normal circumstances, my desktop uses flgrx (ATI) display driver,
> with only one workspace.
>
> compiz version  1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4. There was no package compiz.real or
> compiz-real located by apt-cache policy.
>
> ProblemType: Crash
> Architecture: i386
> CrashCounter: 1
> Date: Fri Apr 11 19:35:36 2008
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04
> ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/compiz.real
> Package: compiz-core 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu4
> PackageArchitecture: i386
> ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --replace
> --sm-client-id default0 core ccp
> ProcEnviron:
>
>  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
>  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>  SHELL=/bin/bash
> Signal: 11
> SourcePackage: compiz
> Stacktrace:
>  #0  0x08055a80 in ?? ()
>  #1  0x0807c6d0 in ?? ()
>  #2  0x00000003 in ?? ()
>  #3  0x000000fa in ?? ()
>  #4  0x00000000 in ?? ()
> StacktraceTop:
>  ?? ()
>  ?? ()
>  ?? ()
>  ?? ()
>  ?? ()
> Title: compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
> Uname: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686
> UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy fuse lpadmin plugdev
> video
>