oh i thought it wasn't enabled by default. I installed hardy a long time
ago, and have been using ubuntu since dapper beta.  I thought you had to go
enable desktop effects.  maybe I just had to go form minimal to custom or
something.

How many clueless people really run linux anyways?  I know it is getting
easier and easier every year.  But bussiness and schools would have a system
administrator to take care of these things.  People who buy their computers
with linux pre-installed would be taken care of by the manufacturer.  People
who custom build computers from scratch could figure it out too.  People who
have their computers fixed by a family member or something would have them
to take care of it. So?

How many people buy a computer with windows, are responsible for maintaining
it themselves, figure out that linux even exists, decides to install it, and
still can't diagnose simple issues? I think that most computer clueless
people don't even know what linux or ubuntu is.

yea i added the skip checks thing, and it's all fixed by now.  but the
reason i use ubuntu is because I don't want to mess with my system all the
time.  I can figure out how to compile things from source, and all that
jibber jabber.  I do sometimes.  But I don't want to have to.  I shouldn't
have to use such a workaround because some computer illiterate people try to
run linux on bad hardware.  I buy computers specifically with linux in mind
and try to only buy linux compatible hardware. that is one of the main
reasons i bought a thinkpad.

I am using a beta version so i can put up with this stuff.  I find it a
little bit fun. but I don't like the idea of someone deliberately crippling
my computer. again this isn't about me, but how many people are almost like
me? the people who could fix the issue but don't want to.

I dunno, you guys do what you think is best.  I might quit ubuntu when i get
a new computer because it bores me.  I like that i can usually get help and
usually find things in debs.  I like how it works pretty well most of the
time.  But i don't like it when i need something new and have to jump
through all kinds of hoops to get it. i think i want to find something
gentoo based. ubuntu is great for work computers, but no fun for personal
computers.  my next computer will be powerful enough to have both.  I should
get two new computers. some things only a desktop can do, and other things
only a laptop. both of mine are aging. but there is the issue of low income
and high debt.

sorry for all that.  I'm just bored. I know I am not the person this is
aimed at. First of all, it will be aimed at people who don't run alpha/beta
OSs.  I always find myself in between the cracks though.  its like with cell
phones.  use them too much and prepaid is just as expensive as contract.
but you don't use the whole contract.  They screw you either way.

you can delete this message if you want.  I just don't get any attention
anymore.  I ended up with no friends for a whole year and won't be making
any new ones until september probably. I tried being not enrolled in school
for a year.  I found the real world to be terrible, am living with parents,
and have no friends because none of them live near here. I found little work
i was willing to do, which ended up working for a college partime, but that
way doesn't make you friends. I always do things a weird way and it has
downsides.

hopefully the ATI bug will be fixed in Hardy+1. anyone who would use only
LTS releases does not need compiz.

thank you everyone.  the ubuntu community is awesome.


On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Bryce Harrington <email address hidden>
wrote:

> Okay, I showed bug 195051 to Alex and chatted with him a bit.
>
> A lot of -ati's internals were written prior to having access to
> register documentation, so there's a lot of educated guesses in -ati
> that proved to be wrong once the docs were in hand, and lead to random
> crashes like this, and Alex believes this is the case with this bug.  He
> did not have a workaround to suggest, and confirmed Travis' finding that
> the issue is not going to be limited to a specific chipset so pci id
> checks wouldn't be a reliable workaround.  He has plans to go through
> and fix up all these mappings correctly, within the next 3-6 months.
> Unfortunately that rules out a 8.04.1 fix (and even if it could be
> achieved in that timeframe, the size of the rework would probably be
> beyond our bug-risk threshhold.)
>
> Meanwhile, I'll make sure alex remains aware of the bug, and try to
> improve the reports upstream so it will be fixed for Intrepid.  The work
> can be tracked at bug 195051 here, and at
> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 upstream (unless
> someone knows of a more appropriate upstream bug?)  So, I'm resetting
> this to WONTFIX.
>
>
> ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
>       Status: In Progress => Won't Fix
>
> --
> [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330
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