Manual removal of the firmware supplied by Hardy's fwcutter package, and then manual removal of Hardy's fwcutter package itself, followed by manual installation of the fwcutter package referenced on the site I have listed in my original post, followed by running that fwcutter package/program, DOES work. Again, not complaining or whining, just wondering if some of us with older Broadcom chips might have to go through these manual steps with anything beyond Gutsy, when Gutsy automated it all through its Restricted Drivers Manager. And of course, hoping the Ubuntu devs can include the proper fwcutter package for our troublesome Broadcom cards in Hardy, if possible. On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:49 AM, der_vegi