Disable the Hebrew translation

[Yaron]

Binary package hint: apt

Due to some annoying bug in linux kernel and vte every CLI app should not display Hebrew strings to the CLI.

Since I don't want to ruin the current translation just in case this bug will ever be solved I want to remove he from the LINGUAS file so it won't compile with the Hebrew version.

I can add a patch if needed.
Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabani.

[Torsten Spindler (tspindler)]

Is this bug particularly about apt or about translations in general?

[Yaron (sh-yaron)]

Actually for each and every CLI string but we have to start somewhere ☺

The reason I chose to complain about this one is that even when installing
with GUI these strings appear in the advanced screen (vte inside the update
manager for example) this way the user sees the reversed Hebrew and this is
really inapropriate...

Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabani.

[Christian Perrier (bubulle)]

Quoting Yaron (<email address hidden>):
> Actually for each and every CLI string but we have to start somewhere ☺

And these CLI packages are 99% of the time used in GUI terminals where
they are very well displayed.

This comment could be made for all complex languages as well
(combining Asian languages). I think that disabling translations for
all complex languages *because* they are badly displayed at the
console (which, nowadays, nobody is using anymore, let's be
realistic!) is completely the wrong answer to the problem.

apt commands, in an Hebrew locale, display perfectly well in
gnome-terminal, konsole and any other application that properly deals
with LTR on any system that has the appropriate font(s). The same
stands for Khmer, Dzongkha, Thai, etc.

I know that l10n effort has been stopped on CLI apps for Hebrew for
such reasons...and I still believe these are wrong reasons, but I
can't force you guys to reconsider this..:-).....but please don't try
or suggest this could be applied to everything, and particularly to
other languages.

And, btw, Hebrew translations are disabled in apt since 0.7.25 (Debian
bug #534992). So, this bug report should be closed in Launchpad as I
guess this is fixed in recent Ubuntu versions. Finding which one is an
exercise left to the reader (and to those people who are able to find
their way in the jungle of Ubuntu versions).

[Yaron (sh-yaron)]

>
> Quoting Yaron (<email address hidden>):
> > Actually for each and every CLI string but we have to start somewhere ☺
>
> And these CLI packages are 99% of the time used in GUI terminals where
> they are very well displayed.
>
They are well displayed in Konsole and MLterm but not in gnome-terminal (see
bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/vte/+bug/263822)

>
> This comment could be made for all complex languages as well
> (combining Asian languages). I think that disabling translations for
> all complex languages *because* they are badly displayed at the
> console (which, nowadays, nobody is using anymore, let's be
> realistic!) is completely the wrong answer to the problem.
>
Well, most of us use gnome-terminal on a daily basis, and some apps still
display a small vte inside them when you click Advanced for example (the
Ubuntu installation is a good example in this case and the Hebrew there is
reversed, I checked that).

>
> apt commands, in an Hebrew locale, display perfectly well in
> gnome-terminal, konsole and any other application that properly deals
> with LTR on any system that has the appropriate font(s). The same
> stands for Khmer, Dzongkha, Thai, etc.
>
Actually they are not ☺
The fonts appear but in the opposite direction.

>
> I know that l10n effort has been stopped on CLI apps for Hebrew for
> such reasons...and I still believe these are wrong reasons, but I
> can't force you guys to reconsider this..:-).....but please don't try
> or suggest this could be applied to everything, and particularly to
> other languages.
>
I don't want to cope this change on Arabic and Persian but they suffer from
the same problem as well, you can see for your self in the bug report I
added earlier.

I didn't say anything about other languages.

I only asked to remove he from LINGUAS, that's it...

>
> And, btw, Hebrew translations are disabled in apt since 0.7.25 (Debian
> bug #534992). So, this bug report should be closed in Launchpad as I
> guess this is fixed in recent Ubuntu versions. Finding which one is an
> exercise left to the reader (and to those people who are able to find
> their way in the jungle of Ubuntu versions).
>
I am using Ubuntu 10.10 in Hebrew and I can still see the translations so
apparently it wasn't fixed or the fix did not make it into Ubuntu.

[Torsten Spindler (tspindler)]

I checked the LINGUAS file and it does not contain 'he'. Is there anything else that can be done to remove the Hebrew translation?

[Yaron (sh-yaron)]

I guess it shouldn't appear from now on, I'll let you know when 11.04 will
come out.

Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabani.

[Torsten Spindler (tspindler)]

Marking this as fix released, if the translation is still in, please let us know.