No sound applet on the gnome panel

Bug #526796 reported by Joe_Linux on 2010-02-24
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This bug affects 43 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Indicator Applet
Invalid
Undecided
Unassigned
apt (Ubuntu)
Low
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indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Undecided
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Bug Description

The is no sound applet on the panel, and no way to add one.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Tue Feb 23 15:45:38 2010
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/yelp
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Alpha i386 (20100113)
Package: yelp 2.29.5-0ubuntu1
ProcEnviron:
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-14.20-generic-pae
SourcePackage: yelp
Uname: Linux 2.6.32-14-generic-pae i686

Joe_Linux (joelinux-earthlink) wrote :
Joe_Linux (joelinux-earthlink) wrote :

Also it's next to impossible to report a bug about it as there is no way to report bugs regarding the Gnome panel at the top of the desktop.

Mitch Towner (kermiac) wrote :

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better.You can submit a bug report regarding gnome-panel by running "ubuntu-bug -p gnome-panel" (without the quotes) from a terminal window. You can find more information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs

@ Saïvann Carignan: This is not a duplicate of bug 526511. This bug report is referring to there being no sound applet on the gnome-panel, whereas bug 526511 states that there are 2 sound applets/ icons on the gnome-panel.

affects: ubuntu → gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
Saivann Carignan (oxmosys) wrote :

Mitch Towner : I've followed lucid development, this is simply the result of gnome-mixer applet which is currently being replaced. During the first alpha, gnome mixer applet was there, after some updates there was two applets and at the moment, there is no applet at all. I marked this bug as a duplicate as the underlying cause is the same and applies to all current lucid installations. Therefore, these bugs will be fixed at the same time and surely before lucid final release, as it is a obvious issue.

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

thank you for your bug report, did you upgrade or install lucid? did you remove the indicator message applet in your configuration before? the same applet is used for other indicators now

Changed in gnome-panel (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Low
status: New → Incomplete
Thierry Carrez (ttx) wrote :

For some reason upgrading indicator-applet doesn't bring in the new "Recommends" from that package, so you're probably missing the "indicator-sound" package.

Thierry Carrez (ttx) wrote :

/var/log/apt contents

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

reassigning to apt

affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) → apt (Ubuntu)
affects: apt (Ubuntu) → ubuntu
affects: ubuntu → apt (Ubuntu)
Jojo (kuzniarpawel) wrote :

I also don't have sound indicator applet on recently upgraded to 10.04 alpha machine.

But indicator-sound package is already installed.

Changed in apt (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → Confirmed
David Tester (david-g-tester) wrote :

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but is there supposed to be a sound applet anymore? Aren't we just supposed to add "Indicator Applet" to the panel and then the sound applet is embedded in that?

Saivann Carignan (oxmosys) wrote :

David : You are right, the "sound applet" is in fact not a independent applet, it is only displayed through Indicator Applet.

ajjoyce (aj-joyce) wrote :

Can we have the old functionality as an option until "Indicator Applet" is a mature option with user control - Please.

Leo Arias (elopio) wrote :

On lucid RC, I added the Indicator Applet to the panel and now I can modify the volume from there.
Don't know if this is the same issue you have...

Francesco Peduto (frapedu) wrote :

When I upgraded to lucid the icon sound disappeared, I had to add Indicator Applet to see it again...

Updated from Karmic to Lucid and volume control in indicator applet dissapeared. I can see it either as a sound applet in "Add to Panel".

OK, I just figured out it is now in "Indicator Applet" which has to be added explicitly to a panel to be seen. It also show Bluetooth, battery-management and an envelope for chats, email, etc. There's a lot of space between the icons...

john.yarger (john-yarger) wrote :

I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 RC and had the sound applet disappear with being replaced explicitly with the Indicator Applet. I hope this is considered an issue and resolved. Thanks.

DracoMoye (dracomoye) wrote :

No option to hide unwanted icon.

Cory Davis (cory-d-davis) wrote :

I'd really prefer separate applets for sound and battery and whatever else is lumped into the indicator applet. For one, putting them in the indicator applet is counter-intuitive. An indicator is for, well, indicating things, not controlling them. If I'm looking for a volume control, "indicator" is probably the absolute last place I'd look.

In addition, the icon-icon spacing in the indicator applet is huge and unconfigurable, and the only way I've found to get rid of the envelope icon (that I'll never use) is to remove indicator-messages completely. I'm using a laptop with only the top panel, so real estate is at a premium. I could easily fit three or even four launchers in the space taken up by the two remaining icons on the indicator applet, or get several more characters visible in the window list.

At the very least, provide the traditional separate applets as an option for those that don't like the indicator. Between Ubuntu and Gnome, the distribution seems to get less and less easily configurable/customizable with each release. I'm all for making improvements, but removing UI configurability is the easiest way to push people to a different distribution. If I wanted to use someone else's vision of the "One True UI", I'd probably still be using windoze.

Daniel Carr (danielcarr) wrote :

I had the same issue, and it took me far longer than it should have to find this solution.
I don't know how much mass-protest influences the powers that be, but I agree 100% with Cory and feel the need to echo his remarks -- I'm not using a laptop, but the spacing is ridiculous and I've already set up email, chat, etc and will never use that envelope. I should, at the very least, be allowed to choose not to display certain icons, as I am with the bluetooth icon.

Also, one minor gripe: the rhythmbox icon used to show the Rhythmbox window with a left click, and bring up a menu with a right click, which I think is more intuitive, but obviously that could just be habit talking. I do think that one should be able to hide the window through the icon, without having to close the window "manually".

And having both a "notification area" and an "indicator applet" seems redundant to me, although I suppose that's just the names
given by separate developers, and doesn't affect usability.

Thanks for whatever help you can provide :)

frotz (frotz) wrote :

I don't see why there would be a need for this "indicator" applet. Isn't there already a "Notification Area" for things like that? What if I want to put the volume control somewhere completely different from the other stuff that this indicator applet puts them? Maybe I just want the volume control and nothing else. This new "indicator" applet doesn't allow for that. Why can't stuff like this be done as an add-on instead of yanking the rug out from under people who like things the way they are?

Leo (leorolla) on 2010-05-09
Changed in indicator-applet (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
Mario Splivalo (mariosplivalo) wrote :

I agree with what most people say here - indicator applet is no-good. It looks ugly, it's unintuitive, icons are way too much apart, one can't hide stupid envelope or bluetooth icons...
And there is no way to revert things to the way they were.

DrWilken (drwilken) wrote :

My only problem with this "Indicator Applet" is the spacing between the icons. It should at least be possible to re-arrange (or remove) them and/or edit the spacing between them by right-clicking and selecting preferences or something like that.

Elie M. (elie-md) wrote :

I agree with above, the indicator applet is ridiculous, I hate it. and still with it there's no sound tray. I use the laptop sound rotation wheel to know how much my sound is. I cant see a tray for that, and nor i can space out the existing trays alone (battery, wireless, compiz, bluetooth and language bar). when i move 1 all move.

Dmitry Nikiforov (axshavan) wrote :

Maybe this could be a temporary solution: run command "gnome-volume-control-applet" or add it to "Preferences -> Startup Application".

Omer Akram (om26er) wrote :

moving to indicator-sound. thought the actual problem is somewhere else but still its more relevant

affects: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) → indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Dimitrios Symeonidis (azimout) wrote :

When I run /usr/lib/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service, I get the following output:
** (process:32072): DEBUG: Root ID: 1
** (process:32072): DEBUG: update pa state with state 0, availability of 0, mute value of 0 and a volume percent is 0.000000
** (process:32072): DEBUG: Building new Slider Menu Item
** (process:32072): DEBUG: !!!!!!**in the rebuild sound menu - slider active = 0

** (process:32072): WARNING **: familiar-players-db.vala:49: FamiliarPlayersDB:: problems loading key file - can't go any further
** (process:32072): DEBUG: PA daemon is ready

** (process:32072): WARNING **: Default Sink info callback failure
** (process:32072): DEBUG: update pa state with state 1, availability of 1, mute value of 0 and a volume percent is 100.000000
** (process:32072): DEBUG: in the refresh menu method
** (process:32072): DEBUG: music-player-bridge.vala:86: MusicPlayerBridge -> on_server_added with value message.gwibber
** (process:32072): DEBUG: music-player-bridge.vala:127: server is of no interest, it is not an music server
** (process:32072): DEBUG: music-player-bridge.vala:86: MusicPlayerBridge -> on_server_added with value message.instant
** (process:32072): DEBUG: music-player-bridge.vala:127: server is of no interest, it is not an music server

(process:32072): libindicator-WARNING **: No watchers, service timing out.
** (process:32072): DEBUG: Service shutdown !

Dimitrios Symeonidis (azimout) wrote :

Just in case this proves useful to others, in my case the problem was solved by adding the indicator applet to the panel. If the messaging menu (an envelope) is missing from your panel, this might be the cause...

Jaromir Obr (jaromir-obr) wrote :

Thank you Dimitrios, I can confirm it helped. When I added the applet on my notebook, items "Bluetooth", "Battery", "Sound" and "E-mail" appeared on gnome panel.

Kamus (kamus) wrote :

this is not an apt bug so I will close this.

Changed in apt (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Invalid
Conor Curran (cjcurran) on 2010-09-13
Changed in indicator-sound (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Invalid
Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

the issue there is not an applet one and the bug describe several issues, the common case seems that people didn't get indicator-sound installed on upgrade which is an upgrade issue, other issues should be described in new bug reports

Changed in indicator-applet:
status: New → Invalid
Odin Hørthe Omdal (velmont) wrote :

Yes, but this bug is real, it should be tied to apt or something then, which it right now isn't. It's just invalid all over the place.

The bug isn't invalid, I've been bummed by the lack of audio-indicator a long time, just now did I search for a solution though.

if it was related to apt those indicators would not be even installed.

2010/10/8 Odin Hørthe Omdal <email address hidden>

> Yes, but this bug is real, it should be tied to apt or something then,
> which it right now isn't. It's just invalid all over the place.
>
> The bug isn't invalid, I've been bummed by the lack of audio-indicator a
> long time, just now did I search for a solution though.
>
> --
> No sound applet on the gnome panel
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/526796
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
> indicator-sound in ubuntu.
>
> Status in Indicator Applet: Invalid
> Status in “apt” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
>
> Bug description:
> The is no sound applet on the panel, and no way to add one.
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> Architecture: i386
> Date: Tue Feb 23 15:45:38 2010
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
> ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/yelp
> InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Alpha i386 (20100113)
> Package: yelp 2.29.5-0ubuntu1
> ProcEnviron:
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-14.20-generic-pae
> SourcePackage: yelp
> Uname: Linux 2.6.32-14-generic-pae i686
>
>
>

Will Chester (william-chester) wrote :

I had a similar problem. I installed Maverick, keeping my home directory from Lucid, and after a short time my sound indicator and me menu disappeared. I tried reconfiguring the indicator-sound and indicator-me packages, with no success. Then I happened upon this page, which described how to get the menus back. I'm not sure if this will fix everyone's problems here, but it worked for me.

http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/restore-missing-volume-button-to-system-tray-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-10-04/

Will Chester (william-chester) wrote :

To clarify, all I did was right click on the panel, add to panel, and chose to add the indicator applet to the panel. After that my sound and me menu indicators came back.

Zlobomir (zlobomir) wrote :

Hello,
Just to confirm, my sound icon disappeared in the same way during a routine daily update (not a distribution update). Fixed by adding an indicator as well. Such "default decisions" are veeeery irritating for me. Same is with the monitor auto-detect, which started somewhere in 9.04-10.04. I use a KVM switch and if for some reason I forget to switch the LCD, I get an ugly resolution later, panel icons displaced, etc. Not even to mention that my server runs with a monitor on to be able to start the X server on auto-restart (I need Wine).

SQeaky (toppij) wrote :

This issue also affected me. I thought I removed just the messaging applet (which I now know is just part of the indicator) and I inadvertently removed the volume control. Later when I noticed the volume control was missing, I tried searching in the "Add to Panel" window for "volume", "mixer" and "sound". Any of these should have brought up the indicator applet with a clear description of what it does.

Also, an idea, if the "Add to Panel" window is empty because of a search result, it should say something. Maybe "Nothing was found matching [whatever was typed]".

To go along with that, each of the applets could have a long description in addition to the short description they already have. If you click on or highlight an applet it could expand to show the long description. During a search if the list of matching applets is short enough to fit in the window, they could all display their long description. That way the in a situation like this, when someone searches for "sound" they would see the long description of the indicator which would say stuff about "sound/volume control" and what else the indicator does.

rew (r-e-wolff) wrote :

For those that end up here with a google search...

My sound control applet disappeared one day. I managed without it for a while, but today figured out how to get it back. The sound applet moved to be a "notification", so I need a "notification area" in my panel and it shows up again.

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