< skaet> lamont, jibel saw the failure on hardware and VM, fresh installation, all amd64. hggdh hasn't been able to see it though. what are the specifics of the system you saw 1066445 on? < lamont> skaet: I'd have to dig a bit, but I'm pretty sure this was an install from this year, call it precise, amd64, real hw. do-release-upgraded to quantal at beta(1?), and dist-upgraded pretty much daily since then. has quantal{,-{security,updates}} {main,universe,multiverse} (no restricted), as well as a ppa or 2 and a local archive < lamont> the mirror I hit is synced from us.archive at :50 each hour < skaet> thanks lamont, can you add that to the bug, so we see if we can get the pattern figured out? In my debugging, I commented out all the deb lines in all of sources.list and sources.list.d/* and got it down to failure with quantal main and universe, but not either one separately. here are more package versions than I think you want to know. # dpkg -l | grep -e apt -e dpkg ii apt 0.9.7.5ubuntu3 amd64 commandline package manager ii apt-doc 0.9.7.5ubuntu3 all documentation for APT ii apt-listchanges 2.85.8ubuntu2 all package change history notification tool ii apt-transport-https 0.9.7.5ubuntu3 amd64 https download transport for APT ii apt-utils 0.9.7.5ubuntu3 amd64 package managment related utility programs ii apt-xapian-index 0.44ubuntu7 all maintenance and search tools for a Xapian index of Debian packages ii aptdaemon 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all transaction based package management service ii aptdaemon-data 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all data files for clients ii aptitude 0.6.8.1-2ubuntu1 amd64 terminal-based package manager ii aptitude-common 0.6.8.1-2ubuntu1 all architecture indepedent files for the aptitude package manager ii apturl-common 0.5.1ubuntu6 amd64 install packages using the apt protocol - common data ii dpkg 1.16.7ubuntu6 amd64 Debian package management system ii dpkg-dev 1.16.7ubuntu6 all Debian package development tools ii dpkg-repack 1.37 all puts an unpacked .deb file back together ... ii libapt-inst1.3 0.8.16~exp5ubuntu14.2 amd64 APT's deb package format runtime library rc libapt-inst1.4:amd64 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.2 amd64 deb package format runtime library ii libapt-inst1.5:amd64 0.9.7.5ubuntu3 amd64 deb package format runtime library ii libapt-pkg-perl 0.1.26 amd64 Perl interface to libapt-pkg ii libapt-pkg4.11 0.8.16~exp5ubuntu14.2 amd64 APT's package managment runtime library ii libapt-pkg4.12:amd64 0.9.7.5ubuntu3 amd64 package managment runtime library ii libatk-adaptor:amd64 2.6.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 AT-SPI 2 toolkit bridge ii libdpkg-perl 1.16.7ubuntu6 all Dpkg perl modules ... ii python-apt 0.8.7ubuntu4 amd64 Python interface to libapt-pkg ii python-apt-common 0.8.7ubuntu4 all Python interface to libapt-pkg (locales) ii python-aptdaemon 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all Python 2 module for the server and client of aptdaemon ii python-aptdaemon-gtk 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all Transitional dummy package ii python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all Python 2 GTK+ 3 widgets to run an aptdaemon client ii python-aptdaemon.gtkwidgets 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all Python GTK+ 2 widgets to run an aptdaemon client ii python3-apt 0.8.7ubuntu4 amd64 Python 3 interface to libapt-pkg ii python3-aptdaemon 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all Python 3 module for the server and client of aptdaemon ii python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets 0.45+bzr861-0ubuntu9 all Python 3 GTK+ 3 widgets to run an aptdaemon client ii radeontool 1.6.2-1.1build1 amd64 utility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions on laptops ii software-center-aptdaemon-plugins 0.1.5 all The aptdaemon plugins for software-center ii toshset 1.76-4 amd64 Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface ii update-manager 1:0.174.3 all GNOME application that manages apt updates ...