Activity log for bug #292403

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2008-11-02 00:00:23 Greg Coit bug added bug
2008-11-02 15:54:43 Alexander Sack firefox: bugtargetdisplayname firefox (Ubuntu) firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
2008-11-02 15:54:43 Alexander Sack firefox: bugtargetname firefox (Ubuntu) firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
2008-11-02 15:54:43 Alexander Sack firefox: statusexplanation firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it. Its not a hard depend and kde users probably dont want to install it. THis is not a bug.
2008-11-02 15:54:43 Alexander Sack firefox: title Bug #292403 in firefox (Ubuntu): "firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" Bug #292403 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu): "firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps"
2008-11-02 15:54:53 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: status New Invalid
2008-11-02 15:54:53 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: statusexplanation firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it. Its not a hard depend and kde users probably dont want to install it. THis is not a bug.
2008-11-02 18:01:12 Greg Coit firefox-3.0: status Invalid New
2008-11-02 18:01:12 Greg Coit firefox-3.0: statusexplanation It's a bug when the most popular web browser requires a whole different window manager!
2008-11-02 22:17:11 Alexander Sack title firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps
2008-11-02 22:17:51 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: status New Incomplete
2008-11-02 22:17:51 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: statusexplanation It's a bug when the most popular web browser requires a whole different window manager! still incomplete. please provide me with the asked information (even though this is a MASTER now)
2008-11-03 00:14:06 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: status Incomplete Triaged
2008-11-03 00:14:06 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: title Bug #292403 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" Bug #292403 in adept (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps"
2008-11-03 00:14:06 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: importance Undecided Medium
2008-11-03 00:14:06 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: bugtargetname firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) adept (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 00:14:06 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: statusexplanation still incomplete. please provide me with the asked information (even though this is a MASTER now) adept should fix its install data then.
2008-11-03 00:14:06 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: bugtargetdisplayname firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) adept (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 13:13:49 Harald Sitter adept: bugtargetdisplayname adept (Ubuntu) firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 13:13:49 Harald Sitter adept: bugtargetname adept (Ubuntu) firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 13:13:49 Harald Sitter adept: statusexplanation adept should fix its install data then. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html Recommends This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations. Suggests This is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging system and the user that the listed packages are related to this one and can perhaps enhance its usefulness, but that installing this one without them is perfectly reasonable. I am not sure how I should justify that I bounce this bug back to firefox, so I'll just leave you 2 possible reasons: a) Kubuntu is _NOT_ an unusual installation - that would be the 'political' reason b) as Alexander said himself "firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it" which is exactly the usecase described for the Suggests relation (same applies for the ubufox recommends) - that would be the 'firefox-3.0-doesnt-follow-debian-policy' reason
2008-11-03 13:13:49 Harald Sitter adept: title Bug #292403 in adept (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" Bug #292403 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps"
2008-11-03 14:53:43 Alexander Sack bug assigned to adept (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 14:55:45 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: status Triaged Won't Fix
2008-11-03 14:55:45 Alexander Sack firefox-3.0: statusexplanation http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html Recommends This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations. Suggests This is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging system and the user that the listed packages are related to this one and can perhaps enhance its usefulness, but that installing this one without them is perfectly reasonable. I am not sure how I should justify that I bounce this bug back to firefox, so I'll just leave you 2 possible reasons: a) Kubuntu is _NOT_ an unusual installation - that would be the 'political' reason b) as Alexander said himself "firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it" which is exactly the usecase described for the Suggests relation (same applies for the ubufox recommends) - that would be the 'firefox-3.0-doesnt-follow-debian-policy' reason
2008-11-03 17:52:27 Harald Sitter bug assigned to apt (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 17:52:51 Harald Sitter bug assigned to aptitude (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 17:53:26 Harald Sitter bug assigned to synaptic (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 17:53:56 Harald Sitter bug assigned to packagekit (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 17:54:28 Harald Sitter bug assigned to smart (Ubuntu)
2008-11-03 17:55:42 Harald Sitter bug assigned to update-manager (Ubuntu)
2008-11-04 09:37:10 Alexander Sack apt: status New Invalid
2008-11-04 09:37:10 Alexander Sack apt: statusexplanation all package tools that can --no-install-recommends are ok.
2008-11-04 09:37:26 Alexander Sack aptitude: status New Invalid
2008-11-04 09:37:26 Alexander Sack aptitude: statusexplanation
2008-11-04 09:38:01 Alexander Sack packagekit: status New Invalid
2008-11-04 09:38:01 Alexander Sack packagekit: statusexplanation i assume packagekit can --no-install-recommends.
2008-11-04 09:38:18 Alexander Sack synaptic: status New Invalid
2008-11-04 09:38:18 Alexander Sack synaptic: statusexplanation
2008-11-04 09:39:46 Alexander Sack smart: status New Invalid
2008-11-04 09:39:46 Alexander Sack smart: statusexplanation
2008-11-04 10:02:21 Alexander Sack adept: status New Confirmed
2008-11-04 10:02:21 Alexander Sack adept: importance Undecided Wishlist
2008-11-04 10:02:21 Alexander Sack adept: statusexplanation
2008-11-04 10:10:31 Alexander Sack title MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps MASTER support to select apps without recommends in app-install-data
2008-11-04 10:12:27 Alexander Sack update-manager: status New Confirmed
2008-11-04 10:12:27 Alexander Sack update-manager: importance Undecided Wishlist
2008-11-04 10:12:27 Alexander Sack update-manager: statusexplanation
2008-11-04 10:16:38 Alexander Sack description Binary package hint: firefox Installing Firefox 3.03 on a new Kubuntu 8.10 install using adept requires installing some gnome files (not just gtk files). It appears that firefox has been compiled with a gnome use flag. Now that recommends get installed by default it would be nice to add the ability to select packages to be installed without recommends in high-level- application managers and the meta data package (apt-install-data). This would allow distributions to provide easy installation of stripped down applications ... as in the case of gnome-support for firefox. ======= Installing Firefox 3.03 on a new Kubuntu 8.10 install using adept requires installing some gnome files (not just gtk files). It appears that firefox has been compiled with a gnome use flag.
2008-11-04 10:17:10 Alexander Sack bug assigned to app-install-data-ubuntu (Ubuntu)
2008-11-04 10:17:26 Alexander Sack app-install-data-ubuntu: status New Confirmed
2008-11-04 10:17:26 Alexander Sack app-install-data-ubuntu: importance Undecided Wishlist
2008-11-04 10:17:26 Alexander Sack app-install-data-ubuntu: statusexplanation
2008-11-04 10:17:48 Alexander Sack bug assigned to gnome-app-install (Ubuntu)
2008-11-04 10:18:04 Alexander Sack gnome-app-install: status New Confirmed
2008-11-04 10:18:04 Alexander Sack gnome-app-install: statusexplanation
2008-11-04 10:18:17 Alexander Sack gnome-app-install: importance Undecided Wishlist
2008-11-04 10:18:40 Alexander Sack update-manager: status Confirmed Triaged
2008-11-04 10:18:53 Alexander Sack gnome-app-install: status Confirmed Triaged
2008-11-04 10:19:10 Alexander Sack app-install-data-ubuntu: status Confirmed Triaged
2008-11-04 10:19:25 Alexander Sack adept: status Confirmed Triaged
2009-11-13 04:31:20 Greg Coit removed subscriber Greg Coit
2012-09-03 14:46:09 Jonathan Thomas adept (Ubuntu): status Triaged Won't Fix
2013-05-10 14:12:40 Phillip Susi gnome-app-install (Ubuntu): status Triaged Invalid