Raymond - because I don't know how to :-) I have very little knowledge of alsa. From lsusb my device has a different USB dev number than the other Xonar U7 card Bus 005 Device 011: ID 1043:85c1 iCreate Technologies Corp. Also if I run cat /proc/asound/card3/usbid I see 1043:85c1 When this I first tried this card I suspected that the '.' in the alsa card name was a problem. So one of the very first things I tried many months ago was to add: "USB Device 0x1043:0x85c1" 1 to the USB-Audio.pcm.iec958_device section of USB-Audio.conf this does not work. I thought I was using the correct format because further down the USB-Audio.pcm.iec958_device section of my USB-Audio.conf I see some cards with 999 as their device to stop them being opened "Scarlett 2i2 USB" 999 "Sennheiser USB headset" 999 "USB Device 0x46d:0x992" 999 } So I tried again today and found this entry on the web http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-lib.git;a=blob;f=src/conf/cards/USB-Audio.conf;hb=HEAD where it has these lines in the USB-Audio.pcm.iec958_device section of USB-Audio.conf "Sennheiser USB headset" 999 "SWTOR Gaming Headset by Razer" 999 "USB Device 0x46d_0x821" 999 "USB Device 0x46d_0x992" 999 } i.e. using an underscore to separate vendor id and product id So I try "USB Device 0x1043_0x85c1" 1 and stiil it doesn't work Can you tell me what the correct format is? On 27 February 2016 at 01:11, Raymond