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Comment 185 for bug 59695

ubuntu_demon (ubuntu-demon) wrote :

* (laptop) harddisk firmwares and (laptop) BIOSes might set too aggressive power management (operating system independent)
* The operating system and the applications running on it might cause too much unnecessary disk activity (multiple operating systems are affected. at least a couple of Linux distributions seem to have the same problem)
The result : is rapid parking/unparking cycles of the harddisk's head (a rapidly increasing Load_Cycle_Count).

IMHO this is the way Ubuntu should fix this :

IMHO this Load_Cycle_Count bug should be assigned critical priority.
IMHO Ubuntu should make fixing unnecessary disk activity bugs a high priority. We can all help finding unnecessary disk activity bugs.
IMHO Ubuntu should override too aggressive power management and make this also a high priority.
IMHO smartmontools should be installed on default. smartd should run on default with sane settings hooking into a notifier to notify users. At least some people who were affected might be warned in time to buy a new harddrive. Maybe this should be a Hardy goal ?

Laptop-mode with sane default settings can override too aggressive power management settings and can also prevent some unnecessary disk activity. Maybe Ubuntu should enable laptop-mode with sane default settings for laptops. What do you guys think ? What are sane default settings ?

Some suggestions for laptop-mode parameters :
http://www.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=HowToSaveYourLaptopHD
http://mishameteo.blogspot.com/2007/10/ubuntu-default-acpi-settings-decreases.html
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=294594#p294594
http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?p=393299&sid=46e5b548a1693fcf6f7e15316f904360#393299
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695/comments/63
http://www.nabble.com/-Cooker--Laptop-hard-drives-and-unnecessarily-high-Load_Cycle_Count-t4730198.html

Regarding smartd hooking into a notifier. I'm thinking of the following example situations when to warn a user :
* if the Load_Cycle_Count is increased with more than 22 cycles per hour (22 * 24 * 365 * 3 < 600.000) (to find people who are still affected)
* if smartctl assesses your harddrive as not healthy
* if more than X errors were found during the last self-test
* if Load_Cycle_Count's WORST is within Y of Load_Cycle_Count's THRESHOLD

I found the following wiki pages with similar ideas :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/SMARTMonitoring
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiskMonitoring

Some bug reports about unnecessary disk activity. These bugs are possible contributors to the Load_Cycle_Count issue.

* the commit interval for the ext3 filesystem should be higher than 5 seconds for laptop users
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/160448

* ext3 partitions should be mounted with noatime or relatime for laptop users
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/160450

* acpid : Log output far too verbose
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+bug/31512

* liferea might cause unnecessary disk activity
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/160460

* thunderbird might cause unnecessary disk activity
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/160466

* tracker : the index delay should be set to a higher value for laptop users
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/+bug/160468

firefox might cause unnecessary disk activity when going to a new website
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/160513

hddtemp might cause unnecessary disk activity
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hddtemp/+bug/160621

IMHO we need people to contribute to these bugs.

There's more information about the Load_Cycle_Count issue in this bug report :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/17216