I'm a long time sufferer of this, found a way to live with it ensuring that my laptop simply under performs, ... until recently. Previously I requested verification of normal operating temperatures -- how hot is 90-100 C for P-M1.73Ghz really?? At full power mine is like this, apparently this is really killing it, but I don't think so. Any one know for sure _before_ commenting? I'm concerned that there hasn't been any absolute statement about how this should work and what to expect. Seems that it works ok for enough people not to worry about it. But why does Windows use this CPU so much better?? However, I can now get much better than before results from a fresh Feisty Kubuntu install using the following: echo "115:0:95:80:0" > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THR0/trip_points and polling seems to be at 1. From my point of view, I don't care about the 115 because the chip will thermally sort itself out -- besides it never reaches this, and this is the point, I don't want a shutdown! Every now and again I see a temp of 102, 105, 107.. these are all just blips that immediately return to 90 something and only happen at full pelt which isn't that often for typical operation. The fan does its job, the chip scales itself to 1300 (something) as and when. So I'm happy to let it rip right to limit (hence the 95) The other numbers don't really matter, its for the board which doesn't do a lot. I'm running in ondemand, and can run performance (though don't see the point). I've noticed now that my machine has started using C-States properly also. I had 3+ hours instead of the usual <2. Some of this I'm sure was due to the previous install of X being a bitch after several days of use. Uptime is now 18 days and its running as nice as it does from first boot. I watch the acpiinfo all the time (recommended during this problem) watch acpitool -e Can people please start posting this also for comparisons: CPU type : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz Min/Max frequency : 798/1729 MHz Current frequency : 798 MHz Frequency governor : ondemand Freq. scaling driver : centrino Cache size : 2048 KB Bogomips : 1598.15 Processor ID : 0 Bus mastering control : yes Power management : yes Throttling control : no Limit interface : no Active C-state : C2 C-states (incl. C0) : 5 Usage of state C1 : 10 (0.0 %) Usage of state C2 : 19506306 (38.2 %) Usage of state C3 : 10372833 (20.3 %) Usage of state C4 : 21221897 (41.5 %) Thermal zone 1 : ok, 54 C Trip points : ------------- critical (S5): 115 C passive: 95 C: tc1=2 tc2=5 tsp=300 devices=0xdf83ce50 Thermal zone 2 : ok, 48 C Trip points : ------------- critical (S5): 82 C Q's: where does the default trip information come from? Is the default trip information wrong? what should they be? exactly what is the relationship between these trips, the cpu and the CRIT-shutdown? does the kernel have any control of the fans for this chip? how is it possible that this doesn't affect every P-M1.73Ghz owner? btw, you should at least be using a 686 kernel, shouldn't you? If running at 798Mhz is your only issue with the proper kernel, this is quite normal!! Your nice CPU is saving trees when you don't do anything useful on the computer. Rob.