Probably not, but while unsupported, an option to fix at Flash 10.2 or 10.3 until Adobe reintroduce Stage Video (whatever they call it) would enable low power machines to actually *use* iPlayer, Youtube, Demand5, 4OD and other streaming video-on-Flash smoothly. this is the crux of the issue. A stopgap... Yes... But a needed one. and much better a package so nothing breaks when accepting the upgrade to 12.04. either that or whitelist Totem-plugins for full H264 from the Beeb and other broadcasters... So nvidia+atom users can actually USE their kit. ----- Original message ----- > Using Flash 10 instead of Flash 11 will break the (probably now > hundreds, if not thousands) of websites that only work with Flash 11, > either because they use features only present in major version 11, or > because they trigger bugs that were fixed in major version 11 (or in > some incremental release after that). Using Flash 10 is therefore not a > generally good solution to the problem of this one website not working. > The goal of making Flash work better for users in general would not be > served significantly by fixing this bug, and the goal of making Flash > work better for users in your specific situation, while it would be > served by fixing this, would not be served particularly well. > > That is not to say that this bug should not be fixed. It might well be > the case that there is significant benefit to giving users the ability > and option to choose Flash 10 (packaged for Ubuntu) as well as Flash 11 > (packaged for Ubuntu). I am not convinced that this is the case, but I > hope this post should not be taken as an argument against it. > > Either the website should be fixed, or Flash 11 should be fixed > (depending on which contains the bug). If the website is fixed, then no > one needs to update anything. If Flash 11 is fixed, the update will > presumably be available to all users of all supported Ubuntu releases, > including Ubuntu 12.04 LTS once it's out (whether the fix happens before > or after its release). This is because Adobe Flash is proprietary and > there is no way for Ubuntu developers to backport just fixes for > security vulnerabilities and serious security/stability bugs, creating > Ubuntu-specific versions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates). > Since this cannot be done, updates to Flash in Ubuntu get new features > (and new bugs) as well as fixes for serious bugs. > > Have you actually replaced Flash 11 on your system with Flash 10 to see > if that actually fixes the problem on the BBC website? > > "Also, am thinking of other users as well. And when or if Adobe manage > to get Stage Video/3D/whatever sorted - would prefer to just accept the > update through Update Manager..." > > Are you saying you think Adobe will release additional updates for Flash > 10 providing major functionality changes? > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/886302 > > Title: >    [needs-packaging] - Adobe Flash 10.3.183.10 - as Flash 11 current >    breaks BBC iPlayer for NVIDIA ION-equipped netbooks > > Status in Ubuntu: >    New > > Bug description: >    With Flash 11 current version and package, Adobe stripped out all the > experimental accelerated rendering support for NVIDIA ION and other > NVIDIA chipsets.  While Youtube will happily roll back to software accel > for NVIDIA users, iPlayer won't.  Results seen are....  Video > compressed, then tries to expand... then freezes completely, then > iPlayer will not play out video at all - but no issues with audio. > >    Effectively, iPlayer is completely unusable if on Intel Atom+NVIDIA >    equipment running Ubuntu 10.04 and Flash 11.  This is a massive >    regression and dealbreaker for British Ubuntu users. > >    The BBC recently updated their playback client, relying on Stage 3D >    logic to present the transport controls as an overlay - interacting >    with issues in the Linux version of Flash 11; Windows and Mac have >    this acceleration logic, according to their own release notes. > >    Intel chipsets (reliant on software) are perfectly OK. > >    Accelerated rendering WAS available in Flash 10.3 and the beta >    versions of Flash 11. > >    The BBC also now stipulate that Flash 10.1 is the minimum version >    required to play content on iPlayer - the only backout Force Install >    option offered is Flash 10.0.42 or thereabouts. > >    Please could you arrange packaging of Adobe Flash 10.3 - >  > http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_other_Linux_(.tar.gz) > >    .. so that a functional backward option is available? > >    This issue also may help with issues on 4OD as well. > >    >    Thanks > >    My kit - Lenovo Ideapad S12, Ubuntu 10.04LTS with all updates. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/886302/+subscriptions