KDE 4.1 welcome sound on login is stopped prematurely

[flaccid]

I login in from KDM, KDE starts-up and then calls Phonon to play one of these (not sure which it is by default):

KDE-Sys-Log-In-Long.ogg KDE-Sys-Log-In.ogg KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg

The whole file is not played it seems. Audibly it stops after a few seconds and fails to play the whole file for me.

[flaccid (chris-xhost)]

I confirm the file is KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg, playing it manually with aplay is no problem.

[Marcus Asshauer (mcas)]

Thank you for reporting this bug. Please give us your ubuntu version and the output of "apt-cache policy kdebase-kde4".

[flaccid (chris-xhost)]

Kubuntu Hardy 8.04

kdebase-kde4:
  Installed: 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2
  Candidate: 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2 0
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 0
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main Packages
     4:4.0.5-0ubuntu1~hardy1 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/main Packages
     4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages

[Pascal d'Hermilly (pascal-tipisoft)]

Confirming on Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex 8.10

pascal@pascal-laptop:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase
kdebase:
  Installeret: (ingen)
  Kandidat: 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2
  Versionstabel:
     4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2 0
        500 http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages

[clickwir (clickwir)]

Agreed. Kubuntu Intrepid.

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo apt-cache policy kdebase
kdebase:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2
  Version table:
     4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2 0
        500 http://ubuntu.mirror.frontiernet.net intrepid/main Packages
        500 http://mirrors.rit.edu intrepid/main Packages
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
clickwir@lappy:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 760/M760 Host (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 25)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:02.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91)
00:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller
00:0b.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter

[mafeu (m-feuersaenger)]

Same here. Kubuntu Intrepid.

mafeu@ohrid:~$ LANGUAGE=en apt-cache policy kdebase
kdebase:
  Installed: 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2
  Candidate: 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu2 0
        500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 0
        500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)

[birdflesh (birdflesh)]

Same here. Intrepid KDE 4.1.2

[madnux (madnux)]

Same Here
Usuario@madnux-desktop:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase-kde4
kdebase-kde4:
  Instalados: (ninguno)
  Candidato: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1
  Tabla de versión:
     4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 0
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main Packages
     4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2 0
        500 http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages
Usuario@madnux-desktop:~$

With the old KDE 4.0 The sound work perfect, but upgrading to 4.1 or 4.1.1 the startup sound stop.

[MoonRise (moonrise7)]

I can confirm this with II 8.10 RC on an ACER 3618 Laptop.

moonrise@Jaguar:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase-kde4
kdebase-kde4:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
moonrise@Jaguar:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase
kdebase:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
     4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
moonrise@Jaguar:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
06:05.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
06:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
06:09.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)

[Tix6174 (tix6174)]

This problem first appeared with Kubuntu Hardy and KDE4 and continued after upgrading to Ibex - problem still exists.

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)

[flaccid (chris-xhost)]

Another example of a bug perpuating beyond 1 release cyle.

[MoonRise (moonrise7)]

Updated my Desktop to Intrepid Ibex and the problem still exists. I had HH 8.04 KDE4 Remix and it did the same. II still no fix. I even installed kdebase just so it wouldn't report Not installed like my Laptop above. Still didn't do the trick. Really all it added extra on top of what Kubuntu has by default is kwrite and kappfinder. All other kdebase was already installed.

moonrise@Panther:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase
kdebase:
  Installed: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
moonrise@Panther:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IR (ICH9R) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)

[Götz Christ (g-christ)]

Using Kubuntu Intrepid with KDE 4.1.2 I have the same problem. It also affects Mandriva and opensuse (I think it affects all the distros).
Is this bug know upstream?

christ@fortaleza:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase
kdebase:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
     4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages

[madnux (madnux)]

Still existing on KDE 4.1.3 :(

kdebase:
  Instalados: (ninguno)
  Candidato: 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1
  Tabla de versión:
     4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 0
        500 http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-backports/main Packages
     4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 0
        500 http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages

[i22yb (israel.b)]

Just my observation, but this problem didn't seem to occur for me until after I installed Compiz. It seems like Compiz is bogging down the system while it initializes and that cuts off the startup sound. Can anyone else confirm this?

[Mario Italo (marioitalo)]

I'm not using compiz, but have the problem...

[clickwir (clickwir)]

Same, I don't use compiz. Just plain KDE4. Honestly, on my laptop I hear it start to play but gets cut off... on my desktop I never hear it. Other sounds and the shutdown sound work just fine on both systems.

[Ahmad Syukri Abdollah (syockit)]

Matthias Kretz provided a hack for this one at http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=887719
as discussed in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157810 . Please apply patch accordingly.

[Ahmad Syukri Abdollah (syockit)]

Bug known upstream, caused by knotify binary in kdebase-runtime.

[Ahmad Syukri Abdollah (syockit)]

Attached is the patch against kdebase-runtime in intrepid backport

[Jonathan Thomas (echidnaman)]

Fix released in Jaunty. Somebody needs to confirm the proposed Intrepid task.

[Ahmad Syukri Abdollah (syockit)]

What's the status for Intrepid? Who can, and how do one confirm the task?

[Christian González (droetker)]

C'mon, this bug is known in Ubuntu since August 08, in KDE since February 08, and can be fixed by 8 lines of Code, and the code is there as a diff.

I know the update policy, but rules are made for helping us, we (people) are not made for serving rules.

This bug is bugging each single user that is logging into KDE4.1, ergo each user of Kubuntu Intrepid.
Look at debian, they are stumbling over their own feet because of policy rigidness - and slowly they are learning.
It's no security thing - but it is evident - IMHO better software has to be working flawlessly equally to it's safety (which often is theoretical.)

Greets, Christian

[Harald Sitter (apachelogger)]

This is not about security. It is about forcing a considerable big update upon every 8.10 user to resolve a completely minor issue that does not even disturb workflow.

It might be annoying, but that doesn't justify stealing bandwith from every user.

Once 4.2.0 is released (which will be soonish) we will publish it via the usual channels (possibly intrepid-backports) then you can galdy update and get the fix. But I have to decline a stable release update. Please be compassionate with those who don't have infinte bandwith and download time :)

[Christian González (droetker)]

Sorry, I didn't see that it's the whole kdelibs runtime to download...

[Ahmad Syukri Abdollah (syockit)]

So I take it that it's possible the patch will be included with the next security update?

[Harald Sitter (apachelogger)]

Not security... usual stable release update ... and even for that you would need to have the SRU team agree with having two patches for one update (which is against policy usually).

[Christian González (droetker)]

That's tha problem. I don't want to start a discussion about SRU here, but in this case (like many others) delta upgrades would help.
It's crazy that this must wait for another cycle just because the 1 file is in a huge package.

Like I said, Debian is suffering from this disease too (no inc. upgrades, and own slaves of their strict policy) - Ubuntu should do better.
AFAIK Suse (since 9.3) and Mandrive use delta rpms, and they work fine.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xdelta (Created 2006)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmallerUpdates
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTPackageDeltas/talk

but that's another story.

[Harald Sitter (apachelogger)]

Package deltas are a workaround for the completely mind warping thinking that an application is one monlithic package making up one file you need to distribute.
Really doesn't belong here though :P