Outstanding bugs in Gutsy Beta

Bug #147354 reported by rhY
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I've been using the Gutsy Beta since Tribe 4. I've updated to all the latest updates, and these are some of the problems I am STILL encountering that should be fixed before release:

1. No 3d games under wine. They are all broken. Direct Rendering is labeled NO, even though glxgears runs at 1500 fps. 3d performance is also very bad in native games, such as Urban Terror. No Nintendo 64 emulation, no Quake 2 Evolved, No Quake 3.

2. I cannot make stereo 128kbps mp3 files from a CD. There is no default option for this, and when I edited the preferences as the Ubuntu Forums told me to, the resultant files make audacity, VLC, and Totem crash. Ripping to WAV produces mono tracks, even though the source CD is in stereo, so I can't import wav files to Audacity and make mp3s that way, either. Seriously, an OS that can't rip CD to mp3 in 2 easy steps is not a good OS.

3. I cannot get video off of a video camera. I have a TV card, and TV time works great, but no other program will recognize the video and record it. I've tried: Kino, Google Picasa under Wine, Virtualdub under Wine, Pitivi, Zapping, and MythTV. Not one of them can record video from my video camera over my TV card and onto my hard drive. Though the video plays perfectly under TVtime. I even attempted to just play the video under tvtime and record a screencast, but the resultant file was jumpy and glitchy, and way too high res for youtube, anyway.

4. There is no camera wizard when I plug in a camera. This means I can't get pictures off of the camera, which means I can't install Ubuntu for my room mate, girl friend, mom, co-workers, grandpa, aunt, band mate, or little brother.

5. There is no working Super Nintendo Emulator, Nintendo 64 Emulator, or games under wine. Add a couple people I cannot put on Gutsy to the list.

6. Compiz-Fusion crashes at random. The whole reason all those people are INTERESTED in Ubuntu is buggy, crashes, and often just doesn't work. It also won't start by default, I have to start it by pressing alt+F2 and typing "compiz --replace &"

So I think there is still a lot of SERIOUS work to be done before this OS is released as something other than beta.

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rhY (rhy) wrote :
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OK, I guess I need to clear up some of what I said. Thanks for all the responses.

To be clear, I WANT Gutsy to be the Windows replacement for all my friends and family. I want Open Source to take over the world, for political reasons, and because I think eventually that will lead to better code/software for all humanity in the long run.

All the errors I am reporting were under metacity, not under compiz. I've asked about my errors about 20 times in #ubuntu+1 and at least twice in the VERY busy #ubuntu.

I actually get an extra 2-3 fps in Urban Terror under compiz. For the record, Urban Terror is the only 3d app that actually works, though. Besides MUPEN (not mugen as somebody else typed), it is the only native app that I try to run that has 3d. Well, those and glxinfo and glxgears, which I have been running trying to figure out what the @$^* is wrong. I understand that some of these issues are my own personal issues based on my upgrade path from tribe 4 up to beta 1. Still, that shows there is a significant problem somewhere in the whole setup of how Ubuntu upgrades itself, IE the update manager, or somewhere else.

Further: The other problems are (probably) not related to this at all, and I forgot to mention another one:

My wacom tablet doesn't work with pressure sensitivity.

I am reporting these bugs, here and in Launchpad, because I want to move about 20 people from Windows to Linux, and Ubuntu is the closest one I have seen yet to being usable by those 20 non-tech types.

So far though, all that works correctly is Open Office, Firefox, Thunderbird, Rhythmbox, and Totem for watching "The Office" or movies or whatever.

No graphic design stuff works right because the wacom doesn't work. Also, without compiz and the zoom plugin, it's hard to air brush properly while zoomed in as was possible in feisty (or maybe it was in tribe 4 or something, I don't remember now). Further, The Gimp seems to be rereading it's plugin database EVERY TIME it loads, which is un-necessary and slow. Inkscape is also pointless, since the wacom isn't working properly. You can pretty much substitute ANY graphic arts program for those two, and point them out as pointless, since the wacom isn't working.

No games are working. Except for Sudoku. I'm getting ludicrously bad frame rates in any 3d game or app. As soon as I join a server, I get slaughtered immediately because I only get a MAX of 20 fps. This is in Urban Terror (which is a native port of quake 3 with different gameplay and levels, highly recommended, by the way, beats the pants off counter strike). The native n64 emu (Mupen) doesn't work. It crashes before the ROM starts playing. Nothing 3d works under wine. They say it's a wine issue in IRC, but that doesn't really matter, if nobody on Ubuntu can play games.... Somebody needs to maybe pop over to winehq and submit a patch.

There is no way to import video from a video camera or VCR, or Tivo over my TV card. There should be a very simple point and click interface that automagically gives you a file you can upload to YouTube. This may be an issue OVER ALL with Linux, and not just this release, or Ubuntu in particular. I mean, you ca...

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Chris Halse Rogers (raof) wrote :

Thank you for your comments, and for trying to help make Ubuntu better. However, these reports are not useful in their current state. Bug reports really should have 1 bug per report - that way we can easily assign the bug report to the appropriate place, and monitor it's progress. Furthermore, the issues you raise don't have sufficient detail for someone to fix them at this point.

To address some of your problems:
(1) It seems that you have installed the xserver-xgl package. This means that you will be using the Xgl server, and so glxinfo will return "direct rendering: no". This is not a bug, and does not indicate that you don't have 3d acceleration. Wine does not detect the available 3d acceleration under Xgl. This is a bug in wine, and sadly the wine developers aren't very interested in fixing it. There does seem to be an Xgl bug here, though, since 3D performance under Xgl should not be significantly worse than under standard Xorg. Could you please file a bug against the xserver-xgl package, with information about your 3d card and driver setup? <https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+filebug>

(2) MP3 encoding technology is patented, and these patents are actively enforced; we cannot include this out of the box.

(3) I have no experience of, sorry.

(4) There is a camera wizard when cameras are plugged in. That you didn't see one suggests that your camera is not yet supported. Could you please file a bug with the details of your camera?

(5) Is possibly a consequence of (1), at least the Wine part. Problems with the various emulators should be filed as bugs against the packages they come in.

(6) Again, bugs in compiz should be filed against the compiz package <https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+filebug>. This seems to be a problem with your setup, however, becuase it *should* work :)

Since it is not possible to use this bug as it is written, I'm marking it as invalid. This doesn't mean that I'm dismissing your problems, just that, as they are presented here, it is not possible to fix them. If you need any help in filing a bug report that we will be able to use, please see <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs>, ask in #ubuntu-bugs on IRC, or ask in another comment to this bug.

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rhY (rhy) wrote : Re: [Bug 147354] Re: Outstanding bugs in Gutsy Beta

Thanks for the advice. I will start posting the 100 bugs in Gutsy one
at a time. *sigh* Off I go to Launchpad!

rhY

> Thank you for your comments, and for trying to help make Ubuntu better.
> However, these reports are not useful in their current state. Bug
> reports really should have 1 bug per report - that way we can easily
> assign the bug report to the appropriate place, and monitor it's
> progress. Furthermore, the issues you raise don't have sufficient
> detail for someone to fix them at this point.
>
> To address some of your problems:
> (1) It seems that you have installed the xserver-xgl package. This means that you will be using the Xgl server, and so glxinfo will return "direct rendering: no". This is not a bug, and does not indicate that you don't have 3d acceleration. Wine does not detect the available 3d acceleration under Xgl. This is a bug in wine, and sadly the wine developers aren't very interested in fixing it. There does seem to be an Xgl bug here, though, since 3D performance under Xgl should not be significantly worse than under standard Xorg. Could you please file a bug against the xserver-xgl package, with information about your 3d card and driver setup? <https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+filebug>
>
> (2) MP3 encoding technology is patented, and these patents are actively
> enforced; we cannot include this out of the box.
>
> (3) I have no experience of, sorry.
>
> (4) There is a camera wizard when cameras are plugged in. That you
> didn't see one suggests that your camera is not yet supported. Could
> you please file a bug with the details of your camera?
>
> (5) Is possibly a consequence of (1), at least the Wine part. Problems
> with the various emulators should be filed as bugs against the packages
> they come in.
>
> (6) Again, bugs in compiz should be filed against the compiz package
> <https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+filebug>. This
> seems to be a problem with your setup, however, becuase it *should* work
> :)
>
> Since it is not possible to use this bug as it is written, I'm marking
> it as invalid. This doesn't mean that I'm dismissing your problems,
> just that, as they are presented here, it is not possible to fix them.
> If you need any help in filing a bug report that we will be able to use,
> please see <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs>, ask in
> #ubuntu-bugs on IRC, or ask in another comment to this bug.
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntu
> Status: New => Invalid
>
>

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Chris Halse Rogers (raof) wrote :

Thank you again for your work!

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rhY (rhy) wrote :

Chris,
    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, and all the other
work I'm sure you are doing!

rhY

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