services management in ubuntu is ugly and incomplete

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The idea of managing services in linux and in ubuntu is disperse, for various reasons:

* services.msc is a centralized tool to manage services in windows, includes list of services with its current state, automatic, manual or disabled state for each one and a short description.

* There is no centraliced way to add, remove, enable/disable and check state in ubuntu. To see wich services are installed you need to list /etc/init.d; to start or stop a service you need to call update-rc.d (what an ugly and complicated name for an executable that may be used several times a day); there is no way to see the current status of a service with a short and clear command, like "service status smb" in other distros.

* Graphical interfaces do not work well with services, some services are not shown, other times the service status is not shown properly and other times starting/stopping/restarting has no effect.

* There is no way either to see service dependencies, like you can do in gentoo.

Well, this sounds some confusing and inaccurate because I am not developer and don't know all details, but the facts is that I find very complicated to deal with services in linux, while in windows I go to services.msc and everything I want to do I can do there.

[Marco Rodrigues (gothicx)]

Thanks for your report. Your idea might get more attention and have the possibility of being implemented if you submit a specification for it. First check whether the idea is already registered [WWW] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+specs, and if so, contact the specification's drafter about your ideas. Otherwise, you can start writing a spec yourself. [WWW] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications

[Fabián Rodríguez (magicfab)]

Missing services should be a separate bug. I'll file one about it. Bug #178525 may be related/help.

[Oldarney Maslata (oldarney)]

This should be marked a security issue. I have 5 different servers running and I have no idea how to shut them down. It seems the community is too focused on the modules and not the end result.