[needs-packaging] jahshaka

Bug #105438 reported by Lionel Le Folgoc on 2007-04-11
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This bug affects 7 people
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Debian
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Bug Description

Realtime editing and effects system
License: GPL
URL: http://www.jahshaka.org

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name : mlt
Version : 0.1.2
Upstream Author : Ushodaya Enterprises Limited, Charles Yates <
<email address hidden>>, Dan Dennedy <email address hidden>
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/mlt/ <http://www.jahshaka.org/>
* License : GPL
Description : An open source multimedia framework

MLT is an open source multimedia framework, designed and developed for
television broadcasting. It provides a toolkit for broadcasters, video
editors, media players, transcoders, web streamers and many more types of
applications. The functionality of the system is provided via an assortment
of ready to use tools, xml authoring components, and an extendible plug-in
based API.
.
Homepage: http://www.dennedy.org/mlt/twiki/bin/view/MLT/WebHome

--
Side notes:
- this package, along with the mlt++ library (ITP following), is needed for
Jahshaka to be able to load a wide range of video files. It is otherwise
really limited.
- the 0.1.2 release should happen early next week, as told by a maintainer,
- 2 binary packages are produced: libmlt0 and libmlt0-dev, both providing
the generic libmlt/libmlt-dev.
- As everything is ready, or about, on my side, as soon as 0.1.2 is out, the
packages will follow.

Arnaud
--
Linux / Unix Expert - MGE UPS SYSTEMS - R&D Dpt
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer -
http://people.debian.org/~aquette/<http://people.debian.org/%7Eaquette/>
OpenSource Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name : mlt++
Version : 0.1.2
Upstream Author : Ushodaya Enterprises Limited, Charles Yates <
<email address hidden>>, Dan Dennedy <email address hidden>
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/mlt/ <http://www.jahshaka.org/>
* License : GPL
Description : An open source multimedia framework (C++ wrapper)

MLT is an open source multimedia framework, designed and developed for
television
broadcasting. It provides a toolkit for broadcasters, video editors, media
players,
transcoders, web streamers and many more types of applications. The
functionality
of the system is provided via an assortment of ready to use tools, xml
authoring
components, and an extendible plug-in based API.
.
This MLT sub-project provides a C++ wrapping for the MLT library.

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name : openlibraries
   Version : 0.2
   Upstream Author : Visual Media FX Ltd.
* URL : http://www.openlibraries.org
* License : LGPL
   Description : A library suite for non-linear editing,
visual effects and rich media applications

  The openlibraries are a powerful cross-platform set of libraries
that provide developers with the key building blocks they need to
easily create, test and deploy rich media applications.
 .
 Homepage: http://www.openlibraries.org

--
Side notes:
- this package is needed by Jahshaka (bug #335249)
- Christian Marillat, who is helping me a lot on the jahshaka
packaging, will take care of this package.

Arnaud
--
Linux / Unix Expert - MGE UPS SYSTEMS - R&D Dpt
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
OpenSource Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

owner 325180 Florent Bayle <email address hidden>
owner 325534 Bjorn Ove Grotan <email address hidden>
owner 325885 Petter Reinholdtsen <email address hidden>
owner 326930 Miriam Ruiz <email address hidden>
owner 328469 Peter Eisentraut <email address hidden>
owner 329195 Marcus Better <email address hidden>
owner 329816 Daniel Glassey <email address hidden>
owner 330708 Arnaud Quette <email address hidden>
owner 330896 Dafydd Harries <email address hidden>
owner 331039 David D. Smith <email address hidden>
owner 332377 Matthias Noerr <email address hidden>
owner 333085 Sebastian Dröge <email address hidden>
owner 333340 Peter Eisentraut <email address hidden>
owner 333355 Mathias Weyland <email address hidden>
owner 333387 Milan Zamazal <email address hidden>
owner 333680 Adriaan Peeters <email address hidden>
owner 333729 Sebastian Dröge <email address hidden>
owner 333840 Mathias Weyland <email address hidden>
owner 334173 Joe Wreschnig <email address hidden>
owner 334218 Matt Flax <email address hidden>
owner 334279 Brian Sutherland <email address hidden>
owner 335232 Yavor Doganov <email address hidden>
owner 335249 Arnaud Quette <email address hidden>
owner 335670 Aldous Penaranda <email address hidden>
owner 335805 Gerardo Curiel <email address hidden>
owner 336481 Julian Gilbey <email address hidden>
owner 336601 Milan Zamazal <email address hidden>
owner 337020 Aldous D. Penaranda <email address hidden>
owner 337096 Sebastian Dröge <email address hidden>
owner 338691 Free Ekanayaka <email address hidden>
owner 339599 Kel Modderman <email address hidden>
owner 339794 Arnaud Quette <email address hidden>
owner 339796 Arnaud Quette <email address hidden>
thanks

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Thomas Huriaux

Hi there,

This ITP is dated 22 Oct 2005, I know other ITPed software is
involved...
Did you make any progress on this?
Are there preliminary packages to test?
Is there any way we can be of assistance to get jahshaka packaged?

Thanks, and happy hacking!

--
  ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution
 : :' : -- Emma Goldman
 `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable)
   `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com

Hello Amaya,

2007/2/20, Amaya <email address hidden>:
> Hi there,
>
> This ITP is dated 22 Oct 2005, I know other ITPed software is
> involved...
> Did you make any progress on this?
> Are there preliminary packages to test?
> Is there any way we can be of assistance to get jahshaka packaged?

I don't know if Christian has done anything on his side.
I was about to threw the towel since my time has once again reduced
with my 2nd baby...

For jah, the problem was mainly IIRC some deps like lame which can't
be satisfied in Debian and thus mostly limit (or render unuseful) the
software.

I'm thinking about renaming these to RFP...

@Christian: more update on your side?
We can exchange a bit privately (biere et pizza à montbonnot ?) to
make a report and pass the hand...

Arnaud
--
Linux / Unix Expert - MGE UPS SYSTEMS - R&D Dpt
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
OpenSource Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

Arnaud Quette wrote:
> I was about to threw the towel since my time has once again reduced
> with my 2nd baby...

Congrats! Wao! :)

> For jah, the problem was mainly IIRC some deps like lame which can't
> be satisfied in Debian and thus mostly limit (or render unuseful) the
> software.
>
> I'm thinking about renaming these to RFP...

Then please do.

> We can exchange a bit privately (biere et pizza à montbonnot ?) to
> make a report and pass the hand...

Thanks for your help in this.

--
  ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution
 : :' : -- Emma Goldman
 `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable)
   `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com

"Arnaud Quette" <email address hidden> writes:

> Hello Amaya,
>
> 2007/2/20, Amaya <email address hidden>:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> This ITP is dated 22 Oct 2005, I know other ITPed software is
>> involved...
>> Did you make any progress on this?
>> Are there preliminary packages to test?
>> Is there any way we can be of assistance to get jahshaka packaged?
>
> I don't know if Christian has done anything on his side.

Libraries needed by jahshaka (openlibraries) still doesn't compile.

Christian

retitle 339794 RFP: mlt -- An open source multimedia framework
retitle 339796 RFP: mlt++ -- An open source multimedia framework (C++ wrapper)
retitle 364340 RFP: openlibraries -- A library suite for non-linear
editing, visual effects and rich media applications
retitle 335249 RFP: jahshaka -- Realtime editing and effects system
thanks

Though I think this app. is really needed on Debian, I'm throwing down
the towel since I've not anymore the needed time to work on it.

IIRC (not fresh in my mind), there was many problems such as:
- openlibraries don't build
- mlt/mlt++ contains non portable portion of code (assembly),
- jahshaka depends on lame (optional but there is a loss of feature if
not used) and a modified version of ffmpeg
- jahshaka itself wasn't much stable when I was working on it.

Thanks to Amaya for pushing me to update these reports and to
Christian for his help in trying to make these packages available in
Debian.

Finally, I would be pleased to help a bit somebody to give some love
to this and to get in touch with the upstream teams.

Christian might also have some beta packages available in his repos,
that can serve as a base.

Arnaud
--
Linux / Unix Expert - MGE UPS SYSTEMS - R&D Dpt
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
OpenSource Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

#wrong package name
retitle 279807 ITA: libtie-cache-perl -- perl Tie::Cache - LRU Cache in Memory
#RFP with owner
noowner 335249
#RFP with owner
noowner 339794
#RFP with owner
noowner 339796
#wrong title
retitle 364340 RFP: openlibraries -- A library suite for non-linear editing, visual effects and rich media applications
#ITP and RFP merged with different package names
retitle 400739 ITP: white-dune -- Graphical VRML97 viewer, editor and animation tool
retitle 325414 ITP: white-dune -- Graphical VRML97 viewer, editor and animation tool
#ITP without owner
owner 400739 Philippe Coval <email address hidden>
#ITA without owner
owner 413627 Deepak Kumar Tripathi <email address hidden>
#ITP without owner
owner 413720 Scott Kitterman <email address hidden>
#ITP without owner
owner 413759 Michael Tautschnig <email address hidden>
#ITP without owner
owner 413817 Sebastian Dröge <email address hidden>
#binary package instead of source package
retitle 413874 O: pygtkmvc -- model-view-controller (MVC) implementation for pygtk
#wrong package name
retitle 413906 RFP: tomcat6 -- servlet container
#ITP without owner
owner 413955 Sebastian Dröge <email address hidden>
thanks

--
Thomas Huriaux

Lionel Le Folgoc (mrpouit) wrote :

Realtime editing and effects system
License: GPL
URL: URL : http://www.jahshaka.org

description: updated
Motin (motin) wrote :

Importing my comment from the duplicate bug:

I too second the need for an updated packaging for Feisty/Gutsy, one that hopefully could be included in the repositories.

Packages for Dapper are already available. Use the Ubuntu installer script from the project homepage or add "deb http://repo.jahshaka.org/ubuntu/dapper/ binary-i386/" to your third party repository list and then install the package "jahskaka".

They are however in no way stable for use on Feisty... I had to rewrite this comment just now because I installed started the above Jahshaka version (on my Feisty system) and X crashed when I tried to even browse for a media file to load.

PS To Jahskaha developer's: why not use Launchpad to track bugs etc? Your current forum-based solution makes it hard to see what the current bug situation is.

sputnik (sputnik) wrote :

Just a note that this should not be forgotten. - At least for Hardy - or the following release.

The team seems to be working now after a pause on version 3:

http://jahshaka.org/News/p2_articleid/76

CydeSwype (ircone) wrote :

Just want to add my vote for this as well. Video editing is the only thing I need to go back to Windows for. Kino just doesn't cut it. Jahshaka looks promising.

Hi all,

is there a plan to package jahshaka 2.0 under Hardy/jaunty 32/64 bits ?

It's a powerfull software that left a lot under Ubuntu since Dapper where it used to have a deb package. even developpement seems to be stop, an 3.0 release is announced since severals months, the 2.0 is already interesting.

Jahshaka is like adobe after effect and it's the only free software that can provide realtime 3D effects for video post-production.

Many thanks,

Laurent,
lprod.org team, France

Motin (motin) wrote :

I think the project needs to be active to be considered for inclusion in universe - and Jahskaka doesn't seem to be moving forward since about a year when the latest news was posted. Sourceforge releases has not been updated since 2006.

Hi all,

the trouble with this project is that developpement is not active, or very few but the 2.0 is a stable release and could easily be use to produce good after effects as this one :

http://laurent.bellegarde.free.fr/bbc_films/

- rendu1 has been done with cinelerra 2.1 under hardy 64
- rendu2 has been done with jahshaka 2.0 under windows XP pro

So as I left Windows(c) since year 2000, it's difficult to imagine there is no GNU/Linux solution to avoid using windows(c) for creating after effects with only free software.

I could understand that this package could not be in universe because the project is non active, so to help user to get the software in 2.0 release available in ubuntu hardy/jaunty, we could help by hosting all the deb packages needed to install it in lprod.org repository, we have a dapper/hardy/intrepid/jaunty one.

The trouble that i can't create the good deb/sources and I can't success the compilation too as I'm a user and not a developper or a packager. We need help about this work.

Should I ask the getdeb team to help me ?

Bye, thanks for answer,

Laurent
lprod.org team

EricDHH (ericdhh) wrote :

Now the development seems to run again, so we need a packaging!

Why? Most companies flood the market with small sdhc camcorders, these devices did not use .dv files over firewire. For .dv i have kino and kdenlive but these programs cannot handle the mpg files from the new devices. There is no cinelerra and no jashaka deb package for ubuntu.

If i need a bit more video cutting, i have to look for a windoze solution. But why when booth programs are available in source and rpm? Please package them, i read many tries ended up in lib-hell and strange version troubles.

Eric

Saie Surendra (saie-2358) wrote :

The company is now at cinefx.org I beleive
and I agree that we need this, especially on ubuntustudio where its ridiculously unavailable.
Its one of the best opensource video editors and its a shame we aren't able to install it!

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