In addition to Mark...

Well it was a time when I was tired by reporting bugs and receiving back 
messages like - your report has multiple keypoints inside - please make 
a detailed report for each one and send him to the corresponding team ...

Pretty annoying yeah ? - maybe 5 from 100 will follow the recommended way.

Because I don't like to renounce, In I tried to adapt to their 
(imperfect in my mind) model and guess what.

We adapt both. Yes - in time I learn Linux (becoming a linux geek) and 
they learn from their inevitable(for a new baby born) 
mistakes(communicational + other nature).

So I can see the empathy working here - they work hard to adapt and 
improve communication with users ( bug reporting, patching, wish lists, 
etc ) - and we realize that the things are in change pretty fast, and we 
are a part of this process. My tired face is not automatically set from 
now one when I see a problem - instead I know if I report that problem - 
if is a true problem - they will solve that as soon as they can.

Now Ubuntu is a Linux territory where the battle for the future of 
computing is on it's big fires. Bugs, flame wars, frustrations, 
brilliant but unseen ideas - all are here (it's a place where Natural 
Selection Live) and is normal for an concept who want to change in 
better a part of this world.

After my first steps I understand they know about imperfections - but 
any problem has it's own time, and things are changing fast here.

For example : I prepared some screen shoots and some txt files to report 
2 nasty bugs form me ( after each login -> a pop up with "language EN_US 
did not exist ..." and a bug regarding fglrx and impossibility to set a 
default screen resolution ..from gconf OR xorg.conf - because always 
Ubuntu choose the biggest resolution for me and was nasty ...). Before I 
was able to send my reports -> after a daily upgrade I see they where fixed.

So mr. Adrian or other like - solution is not to blame or to numbering ( 
time wasted activities ) - solution is to help if you can OR to wait for 
a better future coming in a batter day (hoping until then that a brave 
soul will win all nasty battles for you).

About M$ bug -> don't forget M$ has over 70.000 employees - and they do 
What ?. Innovations ? - ah yes Innovations - they all like to talk about 
that(all time if I remember well)- but I'm waiting on the last 100 years 
or some too see some really new ...(I think I'm a bit blind here or my 
memory lost some RAM, sorry this is my fault) - Better software ? 
..please tell me one or 2 pieces. Hardware yes - I read an old Morse 
code message talking about M$ hiQ PC components (mouses, keyboards, 
audio systems) - and I believe that.

But about software - they never listen final client, simply M$ user - 
because - in their vision not the client should make rules for the 
future - only M$ rules, M$ standards, world can be a M$ world or can not 
be at all...

Or according to my vision - peoples / clients / users must dictate 
Software Future not a people or 2, from some dark office.
The first affirmation is the Ubuntu way. Maybe not perfect yet - but 
it's an idea that's OK to die for.

I remember I wrote mails / sign petitions few years as a webdesigner to 
complain about IE big problems. No M$ ear hear.

When Firefox rise, what we see ? - a Galactic Revolution. All M$ peoples 
that can carry a gun( even some womans  ..it's a legend now), start to 
work on IE 19 / 24 to erase the enemy.

Or this is not a sign of a big, respectable company(and I know what i say).

I was nothing until Firefox, then automatically M$ hear my voice "... 
loud and clear" an we become instantly friends - we change our phone 
numbers, and we call each other by nicknames (Don' ask me now for Bill 
phone nr. - I promise him to keep this number secret [ free only for IE 
users ..but their number decrease as the seconds gone ..I don't remember 
to see any one here ...from the last week ]).

So in 3 words - I prefer to die on the light side - with all their 
imperfections - instead of being a gray slave for a dark master. 
Certainly, here I feel I'm in life.

I have bugs - yes, but I have freedom also.
Dark side slaves (still)had bugs, But they had walls around also.

Which is better ?. Think about liberation now ...

Well that said -> back to killing / reporting bugs / writing blueprints 
/ make wish lists / drink coffee /..and so - cigar pause is over.

;)

Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> Adrian R Goalby wrote:
>> I get the impression (whether right or wrong) that nothing is fixed in
>> Ubuntu, it just inherits fixes from upstream, Debian or security alerts.
>>   
> A quick look in the bug database suggests there are 155,000 bugs ever 
> reported against Ubuntu, and 46,000 marked fixed. That's from a team of 
> 30 full time engineers and about 100 committed volunteers, an amazing 
> effort by people who care about Ubuntu.
> 
> We do try to work closely with both upstream and Debian. In a 
> collaborative ecosystem like the free software world, it is most 
> efficient if each team is an expert in their field and there are really 
> excellent tools for collaboration. This way, work happens where people 
> are best suited to it, but good work is not trapped in one community, it 
> spreads quickly throughout the ecosystem.
> 
> Each upstream has people totally focused on that one component - they 
> know more about it than anyone else. The piece of the puzzle that we 
> most care about is the integration of those components into a coherent 
> role. We see our contribution to the free software ecosystem primarily 
> in providing a *release platform* on a predictable basis, against which 
> folks can do development and deployment. It makes much more sense for us 
> to specialize in that piece, because we have a real competence for it, 
> and it requires generalists which is how I would describe our community 
> and team. A bug reported against Inkscape in Ubuntu is very likely to be 
> something that affects other communities and so needs to be looked at 
> upstream, where the expertise in that codebase resides. Of course, 
> Ubuntu users and developers will try to assess if the bug relates to 
> packaging, in which case it is probably best analyzed by Ubuntu or 
> Debian developers, depending on who did that work.
> 
> In case you think Ubuntu doesn't make any contribution to those upstream 
> projects and Debian, I would urge you to look at the relevant bug 
> trackers, and search for patches contributed by Ubuntu developers. A 
> huge amount of code is produced during the integration and testing part 
> of building Ubuntu, and most of that flows to upstream and/or Debian. 
> Though it isn't always well received, we do make a huge effort to 
> cultivate a culture of work passing upstream.
> 
> I don't mean to ask you to change your opinion, only to point out that 
> one could draw different conclusions from a look at the actual data. And 
> if you are willing to return the favour of Ubuntu, you might want to 
> join the Ubuntu Bug Squad at https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad and 
> triage a few bugs a day.
> 
> Mark
>