he still has his right points. we advanced in manny points - on other points - we are in the past. we need to change some structural concepts. Nautilus for example [take a look at pathFinder on Mac OR to Dolphin on KDE4 to see where the modern file managers go..]. Gnome simplicity does not mean 'hi integration of functionalities' ..yet. [ Also Nautilus take sometime 5-7-8 seconds to open a small folder. Nautilus open quick a big ntfs partition and slow a desktop folder.] Gnome in general must offer advanced functionalities - then let user to choose from - not to offer some 'ready made'layouts by a group which think for the masses. So gnome must be more, more configurable. By default Gnome UI design is not 'user driven' but 'Gnome devs. driven'. there are different functional needs for different groups of users, we need to give them all - then they choose what they need and hide the rest. This is a thinking level that Gnome / Ubuntu / linux in general must reach in order to touch the normal user (for enterprise level situation is different). Also - Printing system - is much better than in the past 2 years but still not completely integrated into desktop - here are a lot of new drivers too. On Hardy for example I have 3 icons for print (Gnome Control Center) -> Printing, Printing and Default Printer. This is confusing for an average user (an XP user for example). Why not a single icon ( Printers / Faxes / Scanners ) with an UI where user can choose step by step all things he / she need. Multimedia. Wrong Players. I use compiz now in my Hardy up to date. The only player which can play well almost any multimedia file (music or video) with compiz enabled or not. Totem the default player is less usable. Other video player does not work OK with compiz, only MPlayer -> until you do some Pro settings. But simply users don't know to do those settings. They expect to click and play. So I can't understand why the wxVLC is not default video player in Ubuntu. Rhythmbox default music player - is poor compared with the death Listen or with Exaile. Why no one can see that - and reinvent Listen ?. I use a beta version 0.6 - not on the repos' which work perfect. Why this version is not on the repositories ? Screen and Graphics is broken on Hardy, Videocard detection - broken, language settings are broken, keyboard detection and sound are broken too, device detection are in someway strange and worst than into Gutsy (on Gutsy all of these work OK). A lot of things - now in alpha stage - must be fixed JUST to work as in Gutsy, until the final release so ...too lite space for new functionalities / features that will add Ubuntu on the 50% of world desktops. I just started a big list of needed changes on structure / UI / fundamental metaphors / + mockups. Finally I am curious if this huge effort will count somewhere in the devel land. ..we will see, anyway I keep the fight but I have a moderate opinion, because a lot of things are ...just not OK. houstonbofh wrote: > wyo wrote: >> It's now almost 2 year since I've written something about this bug here >> (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/62) and it's now about 1 >> year since I've lost fait that this bug will be solved before I die. Yet >> it's time to make a review if anything has changed regarding this bug. >> >> To draw a resume: Ubuntu has nothing achived in this last year. > > I guess you see what you want to see... I am sure my perception is > slightly biased as well, but I still have some points to counter. > > 1) Have you tried printing lately? With Gutsy, cups made a huge gain. > Now most HP and Xerox printers are auto-detected, even on the LAN, and > installed with no "searching." See me do thins with my laptop has > prompted a few "Wins" at client sites with me saying nothing. > > 2) If your screen is ugly, you have a problem. My screen looks better > than most Windows screens, and fonts render correctly in everything. > No, nothing has been compiled. This is all with packages in repositories. > > 3) This year I have been able to engage business to a level I never have > before, in considering Linux desktops for non-technical users. I have > several Proof of Concepts out that should convert into roll-outs. And I > have been selling Ubuntu "Guest PCs" quite well for some time now. > > 4) Drivers have changed quite a bit as well. Along with the CUPS stuff > above, nVidia drivers are auto-detected, and installed by clicking a > bubble that pops up. Several NICs work this way too. Trying to view a > file without a codec prompts you on what codec to install and how. > > Now this has not yet translated to a 50% market share, but it has made > the platform much more viable for people that don't care about > computers. And showing how easy my life is without Windows is the best > advertising. Do you know how impressive it is to print out my invoice > at the client site on their printer without looking for a disk or asking > for an IP address? (Or if you do, it is "Which one of your 6 HP 4220s > is that one? .22?") To someone that has only run Windows, this looks > like magic! >