Rudd-O, To add to my previous email, don't table Ubuntu just yet. Install xfce and the other ancillary xfce packages, or try xubuntu (Ubuntu with xfce as the default window manager). Also, correcting a typo in my previous email, i somehow missed out adding the word "hacker" after the word "kernel". Anyway, try Ubuntu with xfce or xubuntu. Ubuntu is a neat distro in other respects - except that it occasionally messes up on the system upgrade :) On Sep 8, 2012 8:31 PM, "Beast in Black"