Error on Ubuntu documentation immutable page

[Daniel U. Thibault]

On http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoverLostDiskSpace, a line reads "An advertised 500Gb drive doesn't format to 500GB."

Besides the missing space between the number and symbol in each measurement instance (e.g. it should read "An advertised 500 Gb drive doesn't format to 500 GB"), it makes no sense to switch symbols in mid-sentence unless you're talking about two different things (such as bytes vs. bits). Stick to B, the IEC 80000-13, IEEE 1541 and Metric Interchange Format symbol.

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[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

Thanks for your report!

However, the page is not immutable - it's a wiki page which anybody can edit - including you. ;-)
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide
Since you seem to know how it should be changed, it would be great if you could fix it.

Due to the nature of the community help wiki, you can't request changes to it in the form of bug reports.

[Daniel U. Thibault (daniel-thibault)]

The page *is* immutable, it says so right on its top left corner. Do you need a screenshot?

[Ian Nicholson (imnichol)]

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Hi Daniel,
Are you logged into the Wiki? I just checked and I can edit the page
while I'm logged in.

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Ian Nicholson
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[Daniel U. Thibault (daniel-thibault)]

-----Message d'origine-----
De : <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] De la part de Ian Nicholson
Envoyé : 18 juin 2015 15:24

Hi Daniel,
Are you logged into the Wiki? I just checked and I can edit the page while I'm logged in.

Ian Nicholson
-----Fin du message d'origine-----

Yes, I'm logged in. The page says "Immutable Page" and offers no "edit" button or the like. What's the keyboard shortcut to edit this wiki?

Daniel U. Thibault
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[Daniel U. Thibault (daniel-thibault)]

Well, I'll be darned. After logging out and back in, I can edit. Apparently I was "logged in" in a pathological way, offering a "logout" button but no user capabilities. Weird.

Daniel U. Thibault
Protection des systèmes et contremesures (PSC) | Systems Protection & Countermeasures (SPC)
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[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

Good that you fixed the access issue. The community wiki is heavily cached, which unfortunately causes confusion once in a while.

The status "Invalid" stands. It does not at all mean that you don't have a valid point. It's just that there is no team which maintains the community wiki at that level of detail - as opposed to the official documentation, which is maintained by the Documentation Team. In other words: It's a wiki - bug reports don't apply.

[Daniel U. Thibault (daniel-thibault)]

-----Message d'origine-----
De : <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] De la part de Gunnar Hjalmarsson Envoyé : 18 juin 2015 15:55 À : Thibault, Daniel

Good that you fixed the access issue. The community wiki is heavily cached, which unfortunately causes confusion once in a while.

The status "Invalid" stands. It does not at all mean that you don't have a valid point. It's just that there is no team which maintains the community wiki at that level of detail - as opposed to the official documentation, which is maintained by the Documentation Team. In other
words: It's a wiki - bug reports don't apply.

-----Fin du message d'origine-----

Well, yes, now that the page's immutability has been revealed as a local problem, the bug becomes invalid indeed. Had "immutability" been a web site page setting, it would be another matter.

While I've got your attention, does the page render italics for you? None of mine do, even if I use a different browser altogether or switch machines.

Daniel U. Thibault
Protection des systèmes et contremesures (PSC) | Systems Protection & Countermeasures (SPC) Cyber sécurité pour les missions essentielles (CME) | Mission Critical Cyber Security (MCCS) RDDC - Centre de recherches de Valcartier | DRDC - Valcartier Research Centre
2459 route de la Bravoure
Québec QC  G3J 1X5
CANADA
Vox : [phone] x4245
Fax : [phone]
NAC : 918V QSDJ <http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ>
Gouvernement du Canada | Government of Canada <http://www.valcartier.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/>

[Ian Nicholson (imnichol)]

I actually don't see any italics on the page, and in ~10 seconds of playing around I was unable to figure out how to get them working.

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

On 2015-06-18 22:49, Daniel U. Thibault wrote:
> Well, yes, now that the page's immutability has been revealed as a
> local problem, the bug becomes invalid indeed. Had "immutability"
> been a web site page setting, it would be another matter.

;)

> While I've got your attention, does the page render italics for you?

No. Unlike wiki.ubuntu.com, the community wiki is customized to not render italics. I suppose it's intentional - someone wanted to avoid unnecessary 'noise' - but personally I disagree.

[Daniel U. Thibault (daniel-thibault)]

-----Message d'origine-----
De : <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] De la part de Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Envoyé : 18 juin 2015 17:12

> While I've got your attention, does the page render italics for you?

No. Unlike wiki.ubuntu.com, the community wiki is customized to not render italics. I suppose it's intentional - someone wanted to avoid unnecessary 'noise' - but personally I disagree.
-----Fin du message d'origine-----

Then someone needs to fix http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpOnFormatting (which remains immutable to me despite being properly logged in now). That page also shows that italic, superscripts, subscripts, smaller, larger, and strikethrough are all disabled!

Daniel U. Thibault
Protection des systèmes et contremesures (PSC) | Systems Protection & Countermeasures (SPC)
Cyber sécurité pour les missions essentielles (CME) | Mission Critical Cyber Security (MCCS)
RDDC - Centre de recherches de Valcartier | DRDC - Valcartier Research Centre
2459 route de la Bravoure
Québec QC  G3J 1X5
CANADA
Vox : [phone] x4245
Fax : [phone]
NAC : 918V QSDJ <http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ>
Gouvernement du Canada | Government of Canada
<http://www.valcartier.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/>

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)]

Either that, or change the behavior. It's bug #1057987.