Activity log for bug #1828152

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2019-05-08 03:32:58 Momozor bug added bug
2019-05-08 03:38:29 Momozor description Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." Thanks. Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." And not just that. I believe the first window after OBI splash screen should only give you two options for ToriOS installation. Basic and Advanced with description text about each choice will do and what the user should expect, and only expose the related options for each section. For example: after splash screen window --------------------------- * Basic (default) If you don't know which option to choose, select this. * Advanced Partitioning, disk encryption, etc or something like above. Thanks.
2019-05-08 03:46:08 Momozor description Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." And not just that. I believe the first window after OBI splash screen should only give you two options for ToriOS installation. Basic and Advanced with description text about each choice will do and what the user should expect, and only expose the related options for each section. For example: after splash screen window --------------------------- * Basic (default) If you don't know which option to choose, select this. * Advanced Partitioning, disk encryption, etc or something like above. Thanks. Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." And not just that. I believe the first window after OBI splash screen should only give you language choice option forToriOS installation. Then, a window that contains Basic and Advance with description text about what each choice will do and what the user should expect, and only expose the related options for each section. For example: after splash screen window --------------------------- * Select language * english (default) * spanish * etc * etc after language selection window -------------------------------  * Basic (default)    If you don't know which option to choose, select this.  * Advance    Partitioning, disk encryption, use latest tarball, etc or something like above. and then for basic installation window -------------------------- * Install and erase current OS.. * Install along side.. * Something related for basic options, etc or if user selected advance option ----------------------------------- * install into custom partition * install with latest tarball (testing) * make custom tarball (testing) * etc.. Thanks.
2019-05-08 03:47:00 Momozor description Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." And not just that. I believe the first window after OBI splash screen should only give you language choice option forToriOS installation. Then, a window that contains Basic and Advance with description text about what each choice will do and what the user should expect, and only expose the related options for each section. For example: after splash screen window --------------------------- * Select language * english (default) * spanish * etc * etc after language selection window -------------------------------  * Basic (default)    If you don't know which option to choose, select this.  * Advance    Partitioning, disk encryption, use latest tarball, etc or something like above. and then for basic installation window -------------------------- * Install and erase current OS.. * Install along side.. * Something related for basic options, etc or if user selected advance option ----------------------------------- * install into custom partition * install with latest tarball (testing) * make custom tarball (testing) * etc.. Thanks. Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." And not just that. I believe the first window after OBI splash screen should only give you language choice option for ToriOS installation. Then, a window that contains Basic and Advance with description text about what each choice will do and what the user should expect, and only expose the related options for each section. For example: after splash screen window --------------------------- * Select language   * english (default)   * spanish   * etc   * etc after language selection window -------------------------------  * Basic (default)    If you don't know which option to choose, select this.  * Advance    Partitioning, disk encryption, use latest tarball, etc or something like above. and then for basic installation window -------------------------- * Install and erase current OS.. * Install along side.. * Something related for basic options, etc or if user selected advance option ----------------------------------- * install into custom partition * install with latest tarball (testing) * make custom tarball (testing) * etc.. Thanks.
2019-05-08 03:47:40 Momozor description Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." And not just that. I believe the first window after OBI splash screen should only give you language choice option for ToriOS installation. Then, a window that contains Basic and Advance with description text about what each choice will do and what the user should expect, and only expose the related options for each section. For example: after splash screen window --------------------------- * Select language   * english (default)   * spanish   * etc   * etc after language selection window -------------------------------  * Basic (default)    If you don't know which option to choose, select this.  * Advance    Partitioning, disk encryption, use latest tarball, etc or something like above. and then for basic installation window -------------------------- * Install and erase current OS.. * Install along side.. * Something related for basic options, etc or if user selected advance option ----------------------------------- * install into custom partition * install with latest tarball (testing) * make custom tarball (testing) * etc.. Thanks. Hi. As far as I can remember, ToriOS was targeted for casual users that are using old (and likely slow) hardware. While ToriOS 1.5.0 is already good for the old system, the OBI installer (both GUI and TUI) are still not user friendly. From my observation, it leaks several of the options that a casual user won't really care (or at all) and this will only lead to further confusion. One example is number 3. from this email - https://lists.launchpad.net/torios-dev/msg01622.html "I found the locales thing really baffling, as to what to actually choose, I did find en-gb iso-8859-1. Which is meaningless to me, We need a section that really explains this in plain language in the manual. I don't get asked about locales with Debian or don't seem to." And not just that. My proposal will be - the first window after OBI splash screen should only give you language choice option for ToriOS installation. Then, a window that contains Basic and Advance with description text about what each choice will do and what the user should expect, and only expose the related options for each section. For example: after splash screen window --------------------------- * Select language   * english (default)   * spanish   * etc   * etc after language selection window -------------------------------  * Basic (default)    If you don't know which option to choose, select this.  * Advance    Partitioning, disk encryption, use latest tarball, etc or something like above. and then for basic installation window -------------------------- * Install and erase current OS.. * Install along side.. * Something related for basic options, etc or if user selected advance option ----------------------------------- * install into custom partition * install with latest tarball (testing) * make custom tarball (testing) * etc.. Thanks.
2019-05-08 04:26:18 Momozor nominated for series torios/torios-1.5
2019-05-08 04:26:18 Momozor bug task added torios/torios-1.5
2019-05-08 05:58:56 Momozor torios/torios-1.5: assignee ToriOS Developers (torios-dev) Israel Dahl (israeldahl)