[wishlist] thread scoring rules

[Sam Vilain]

Personally I frequently need to watch certain threads on very high volume lists (eg, LKML). This is what I end up doing at the moment:

1. select "threads with unread". Thunderbird tidily folds each thread into a single line. fantastic.

2. scan the ones that are bold (ie, new threads), to see if any of the messages are relevant, or are from authors that I know are working in the same field as myself.

3. flag the threads I want to watch as "important", so that they stand out in red. Possibly hit "R" on the ones I don't care about to mark them as read. ignore the ones that are just underlined - if I didn't care about them the first time around, I won't care about them the next time.

4. read all the messages from the threads in red

5. hit "catchup"

Of course this usage pattern is just begging for a thread scoring system, like emacs' gnus has. ie, setup key words, authors and other rules (such as, threads I've participated in) that increase a thread's score. Then you sort threads by score and ignore the ones that don't make the threshold.

[gwalla (gwalla)]

I'm not sure that this is really dependent on newsgroup filters. It seems like a
general filtering feature...I can imagine that it could be useful when dealing
for mailing lists.

[Helge Hielscher (hhielscher)]

Shouldn't this bug depend on bug 33296 (Add "Rating" attribute to mail msgs &
allow filtering it)?

[Sspitzer (sspitzer)]

mass re-assign.

[Sam Vilain (sam-vilain)]

Personally I frequently need to watch certain threads on very high volume lists (eg, LKML). This is what I end up doing at the moment:

1. select "threads with unread". Thunderbird tidily folds each thread into a single line. fantastic.

2. scan the ones that are bold (ie, new threads), to see if any of the messages are relevant, or are from authors that I know are working in the same field as myself.

3. flag the threads I want to watch as "important", so that they stand out in red. Possibly hit "R" on the ones I don't care about to mark them as read. ignore the ones that are just underlined - if I didn't care about them the first time around, I won't care about them the next time.

4. read all the messages from the threads in red

5. hit "catchup"

Of course this usage pattern is just begging for a thread scoring system, like emacs' gnus has. ie, setup key words, authors and other rules (such as, threads I've participated in) that increase a thread's score. Then you sort threads by score and ignore the ones that don't make the threshold.

[Alexander Sack (asac)]

Thanks for the report.

This has to be dealt with upstream by mozilla.org developers.

So please be patient.

[Moco (moco)]

sorry for the spam. making bugzilla reflect reality as I'm not working on these bugs. filter on FOOBARCHEESE to remove these in bulk.

[Sgautherie-bz (sgautherie-bz)]

Filter on "Nobody_NScomTLD_20080620"

[Javier Jardón (jjardon)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Can you try with latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance.

[John Vivirito (gnomefreak)]

On 12/07/2008 04:48 PM, Javier Jardón wrote:
> Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
> Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been
> any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue
> for you? Can you try with latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance.
>
> ** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
> Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) => Javier Jardón (torkiano)
>
If ther was a reason that alexander was assigned to bug please add him
back. Unless you plan of fixing the bug please dont assign yourself just
to ask questionss. The bug team has change it to not adding yourself
when triaging bugs.

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[Micah Gersten (micahg)]

Would having watched threads like in News suffice?
This is already a pending request with upstream:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179033

[Micah Gersten (micahg)]

Request is still valid for TB2+

[Sam Vilain (sam-vilain)]

Micah, not really. I for one though would like to highlight threads which discuss key words about topics I specialize in, rather than have to do that for every thread. Also there are authors I respect who I'd like to read much more of their writings than other authors. I'd like the "unwatch thread" to be more like "mark thread as boring", which might even have more options to say whether there were some key words that made it boring, because perhaps I'd like to rank down messages which match that.

Ah well I'm probably heading back towards gnus soon anyway... :-)

[John Vivirito (gnomefreak)]

Please file this bug upstream since you dont think they are the same. We can rtack it if they mark as a duplicate. Please drop the upstream bug link here.

[Sam Vilain (sam-vilain)]

Roger that. Filed upstream as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494974

[Joshua Cranmer (jcranmer)]

*** Bug 494974 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

[Bugmail-asutherland (bugmail-asutherland)]

An extension could do much of this through use of a custom column. Since you can sort on custom columns, an extension could compute a score for each message in a newsgroup, and expose that as the column value. Sort by the column, and voila!

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/Creating_a_Custom_Column

[Sam Vilain (sam-vilain)]

Which has been closed and the ticket from 2002 marked as the master. The developer recommends implementing it as a Thunderbird extension and gave some brief tips.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163935

[John Vivirito (gnomefreak)]

Updated to track the master bug upstrream.
Thanks for looking into it Sam

[gf (gf-interlinks-deactivatedaccount)]

Hello Sam,
Thank you for submitting this bug and reporting a suggestion for thread sorting in Thunderbird. You made this bug report in 2006 and there have been several versions of Ubuntu and Thunderbird since then.

Could you confirm that this is no longer a problem and that we can close the ticket?
If it is still a problem, are you still interested in finding a solution to this bug?
If you are, could you let us know?

Thank you again for helping make Ubuntu and Thunderbird better.
G

[Paul White (paulw2u)]

This issue has sat with a status of 'Incomplete' for over four years now without any response so it is being closed. The upstream bug report is still open although this feature is unlikely to be implemented by either Mozilla or Ubuntu.

Closing as "Invalid" but probably should be "Won't Fix".