Azimuth Inaccuracy

Bug #1098113 reported by Dave Ellis
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Stellarium
Won't Fix
Low
treaves

Bug Description

I've added a levelling base to my Dob to get better accuracy using the azimuth setting circle, I'd previously had accuracy issues and attributed this to the base not being level hence the modification. Anyway I get out this evening, the first semi clear sky since I finished the base, carefully levelled the base turning the spirit level to ensure everything was done to reduce any chance of errors all good so far. I then fired up Stellarium and looked up the Alt Az for Betelgeuse and adjusted the pointer on my scope base to match the azimuth then spun the scope round to Merak read off the azimuth referred back to Stellarium only to find it was a couple of degrees out. I went back in and double checked the time and location I had set on Stellarium and it was and still is spot on. I repeated this throughout the sky and it was the same story.

I'm back inside now having spent the evening trying to understand the problem, re levelling the base, re checking Stellarium, re aligning and all to no avail, I've even checked the accuracy of my degree circle which is spot on. I then came to the conclusion Stellarium was wrong opened up Skychart checking location and time against Stellarium and both are identical. I then looked at a few alt az coordinates for various objects and found a discrepancy between the two programs with Skychart showing 4 degrees higher azimuth reading than Stellarium exactly what I'd seen earlier with the scope after aligning to Polaris. Thus Stellarium appears to be showing incorrect alt az coordinates.

The obvious answer is to use Skychart but I find the program very clunky when compared to Stellarium so would prefer to find out what's going wrong.

I have another machine running Stellarium and that shows exactly the same alt az as machine number one????

Tags: mac-os-x
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Alexander Wolf (alexwolf) wrote :

Please show coordinates of location from both computers.

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Alexander Wolf (alexwolf) wrote :

Sorry, from Stellarium and from Sky Chart.

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Dave Ellis (dave-ellis) wrote :

Stellarium N 53 deg 6' 52.00" W 2 deg 30' 14.00" altitude 38 metres

Skychart N 53 deg 6' 52" W 2 deg 30' 14" altitude 38 metres (decimal option for minutes not available on Skychart.

Further detail:

The problem was on a Mac and appears to be Mac related

Just typed the above and realised that I’m typing on my work laptop which is a Windows machine and I have one of my Macs with me so I’ve cross referenced the machines and found where the problem is.

Stellarium on the Windows machine agrees with Skychart on the Mac.
Stellarium on the Windows machine DOES NOT agree with Stellarium on the Mac.
Stellarium on both Macs agree.

Before I did this comparison I double checked the setting in all three programs and they are all identical so it looks like the issue is with Stellarium on my Macs and I’ve no idea how I sort that one!

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Dave Ellis (dave-ellis) wrote :

For reference

Macs are running Stellarium 0.11.4 on OS X 10.6.8

Windows is running Stellarium 0.11.1 on XP Professional

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Alexander Wolf (alexwolf) wrote :

Thanks for info! Please attach screenshots from Stellarium (mac + win) and Sky Chart for same time, location and object.

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Dave Ellis (dave-ellis) wrote :

PLease see the three screenshots attached as requested. All are at 18:00hrs on 10th Jan 2013 with the following lat/long N 53 deg 6' 52.00" W 2 deg 30' 14.00" altitude 38 metres and are centred on Betelgeuse the alt az infor on Skychart is in the botton left of the image.

Dave

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Dave Ellis (dave-ellis) wrote :

Could only add one attachment

Mac Skychart

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Dave Ellis (dave-ellis) wrote :

Windows Stellarium

Changed in stellarium:
status: New → Confirmed
importance: Undecided → High
tags: added: mac-os-x
Changed in stellarium:
assignee: nobody → treaves (treaves)
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Dave Ellis (dave-ellis) wrote :

Any further info needed from me?

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treaves (treaves) wrote :

On my Mac, with three different applications, I can not recreate this. When location in all three apps are the same, each of the three apps has the same RA/Dec, with slightly differing Alt/Az, but within calculation limits.

Changed in stellarium:
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
importance: High → Low
treaves (treaves)
Changed in stellarium:
status: Incomplete → Won't Fix
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