(setf lparen '#\( ) fails

[murray wolinsky]

Type

(setf lparen '#\( )

in the repl. In clisp, this behaves as I expect it to. In sbcl, it fails.

[Stas Boukarev (stassats)]

Works as expected in SBCL.

[murray wolinsky (mbob)]

I don't understand. This is what I get:

 It fails in sbcl 1.3.18 and works properly in clisp 2.49.

Does this mean you expect it to fail in sbcl? Why?

18:13:57 ~ 501 > sbcl
This is SBCL 1.3.18, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp.
More information about SBCL is available at <http://www.sbcl.org/>.

SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty.
It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under
BSD-style licenses. See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the
distribution for more information.
* (setf lparen '#\( )
; in: SETF LPAREN
; (SETF LPAREN '#\()
; ==>
; (SETQ LPAREN '#\()
;
; caught WARNING:
; undefined variable: LPAREN
;
; compilation unit finished
; Undefined variable:
; LPAREN
; caught 1 WARNING condition

#\(
* (quit)
18:14:05 ~ 502 > clisp
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  I \ `+' / I 8 8 8 8 8 8
   \ `-+-' / 8 8 8 ooooo 8oooo
    `-__|__-' 8 8 8 8 8
        | 8 o 8 8 o 8 8
  ------+------ ooooo 8oooooo ooo8ooo ooooo 8

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[1]> (setf lparen '#\( )
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On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Stas Boukarev <email address hidden> wrote:

> Works as expected in SBCL.
>
> ** Changed in: sbcl
> Status: New => Invalid
>
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> Title:
> (setf lparen '#\( ) fails
>
> Status in SBCL:
> Invalid
>
> Bug description:
> Type
>
> (setf lparen '#\( )
>
> in the repl. In clisp, this behaves as I expect it to. In sbcl, it
> fails.
>
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[Christophe Rhodes (csr21-cantab)]

murray wolinsky <email address hidden> writes:

> I don't understand. This is what I get:

In SBCL, you get some warnings, because what you're doing is assigning
to a variable with no binding. This is (strictly speaking) undefined
behaviour; SBCL does in fact set the SYMBOL-VALUE of LPAREN to what you
ask it to (so it doesn't "fail") but it also tells you that you
shouldn't do that.

To define a global variable, use DEFPARAMETER (and conventionally,
*earmuff* your variable).

Christophe

[murray wolinsky (mbob)]

Thank you!

I'm new at this -- and probably shouldn't have filed a bug report. I'll be
more careful.

Murray

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 3:41 AM, Christophe Rhodes <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> murray wolinsky <email address hidden> writes:
>
> > I don't understand. This is what I get:
>
> In SBCL, you get some warnings, because what you're doing is assigning
> to a variable with no binding. This is (strictly speaking) undefined
> behaviour; SBCL does in fact set the SYMBOL-VALUE of LPAREN to what you
> ask it to (so it doesn't "fail") but it also tells you that you
> shouldn't do that.
>
> To define a global variable, use DEFPARAMETER (and conventionally,
> *earmuff* your variable).
>
> Christophe
>
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> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1753341
>
> Title:
> (setf lparen '#\( ) fails
>
> Status in SBCL:
> Invalid
>
> Bug description:
> Type
>
> (setf lparen '#\( )
>
> in the repl. In clisp, this behaves as I expect it to. In sbcl, it
> fails.
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/1753341/+subscriptions
>