Need review / changed numbers wrong

[Timo Jyrinki]

For example, on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/fi, a simple package like ksmserver says 2 needing review and 2 changed. However, no strings are in a needs review state, and previously changed strings have been changed back to "Packaged" nowadays.

The needs review stuff is the (really) new problem. Now that the numbers for changed are shown, it's probably the same thing why the graphs stay wrong even after setting strings back to "Packaged", see bug 126963.

[Julian Alarcon (julian-alarcon)]

Please!!!!.. Fix this error... Is damned annoying!!!...
This error is new and don't help us to make a precise translations.... Some packages are without translations but the first page show them without pending translations... like here..https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/es/+index?start=995&batch=50, he package tracker is completely translated.. If you check this page, https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/tracker/+pots/tracker/es/+translate, to the left there is no any pending translation, but if you filter by "Need review", https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/tracker/+pots/tracker/es/+translate?batch=10&show=need_review, you have 13 results!!!.. Please, fix them!!

[Julian Alarcon (julian-alarcon)]

Sorry if I talk aggressively, sorry guys... But, This bug is so frustrating... Thanks folks!!! Bye..

[Adi Roiban (adiroiban)]

Hi,
I can confirm this bug in translations.edge.launchpad.net

At this page
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/ro/+index?start=0&batch=50

gnome-menus need 30 reviews

But here no reviews are required
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-menus/+pots/gnome-menus/ro/+translate?batch=10&show=need_review

good luck

[David Planella (dpm)]

I can confirm this behaviour as well. The "Need review" and "Changed" stats do not reflect the real "Need review" and "Changed" strings.

I firstly observed it on the Catalan translation of Evolution at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/evolution/+translate, but it seems to happen to other packages as well.

[Данило Шеган (danilo)]

There's some confusion here.
  - Number of 'Need review' strings on the overview page is the number of messages which have new, unreviewed suggestions, so the proper filter to use is 'with new suggestions', and not 'needs review': for examples given above which I checked, this seems to work correctly; we should not have used the same title here, so this is our fault.
  - 'needs review' filter is total borkage, and needs to be either renamed to 'fuzzy' (to match gettext terminology), or completely removed; I'd go for completely removing it, but we'd need to replace it with a different 'similarity matching' to help with translations instead
  - Those numbers on the overview pages should link directly to filtered pages: I have a branch ready, and that will be available in 1.1.12 (December release)
  - po file stats will be correctly updated after 1.1.11 release, but we still need to fix a lot of old data; that is mostly ready (we have a script which does that), but there were some minor issues with it, and we didn't have time to look into them for 1.1.11.

[Julian Alarcon (julian-alarcon)]

I really think hat need review is an important tool....

Or maybe, we must to change something. Official translators, like me, don't have the chance to make JUST a suggestion, so, in this way, the "need review" allow us to make this kind of things. We aren't super translators, we make mistakes and we are not sure of everything.. so, if we can make just a suggestion.. all is done...

[Данило Шеган (danilo)]

This is being addressed by a spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/hide-fuzzy-translations

[Tom (tom6)]

Oh, i assumed that 'Needs Review' was a valid tool doing just what it says on the tin. Perhaps using a voting system to see which translation meets with the greatest approval. Is this not the case?