Some discussions on #debian-systemd IRC that may or may not be useful. plugwash: there is #908658 -zwiebelbot/#debian-systemd- Debian#908658: systemd: apt-get upgrade from 239-7 to 239-8 failed - https://bugs.debian.org/908658 -BTS/#debian-systemd- Closed #908358 in systemd by Michael Biebl (biebl) «Display stays off after computer resumes from suspend». https://bugs.debian.org/908358 <--snip--> mbiebl, mmm that is just weird, that bug claims it appeared with -8 and went away again with -9 yet there is nothing relavent in the changelog all I can think is that it was caused by some library at build time. that or the compiler (or build flags rather) not sure if that changed between -7 and -8 (and again between -8 and -9) <--snip--> plugwash: looks like having this library installed trips of MemoryDenyWriteExecute <--snip--> plugwash: if raspi-copies-and-fills fiddles e.g. with the memcpy implementation, it sounds like this could very well be the culprit https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/72594/failed-to-start-udev-kernel-device-manager <-- i'm aware of that one but this guy claims not to have raspi-copies-and-fills installed, also this guy claims his system works with -7 but not -8 (we don't have -9 in raspbian yet, some of our autobuilders seem unable to successfully run the systemd testsuite) so it seems to be a seperate issue. the only relevant changes on the systemd side between -7 and -8 are https://salsa.debian.org/systemd-team/systemd/commit/40dca899f180066a7e72b8fd227b3ad2a9f056ce https://salsa.debian.org/systemd-team/systemd/commit/5da767304781d6d06e65a93b8de25d06727faa88 I don't see how they could trigger this failure. me neither but I don't think it's something we did either, which leads to a puzzle of what caused this. It's not 100% clear but I don't think https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=908658 was using raspbian as raspbian doesn't have -9 yet. -zwiebelbot/#debian-systemd- Debian#908658: systemd: apt-get upgrade from 239-7 to 239-8 failed - https://bugs.debian.org/908658 *was not using raspbian i'm currently in the process of setting up a sacrificial system to try and reproduce this. plugwash: hm, Distributor ID: Raspbian curious some kind of frankendebian? raspbian with buster apt source enabled? libc6 2.27-5+rpi1 looks like it's not a pristine buster system * pipedream has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) very possibly a system with both Debian and Raspbian apt sources enabled. so if 239-8 is provided by raspbian, does it mean it get's recompiled there? maybe -8 was build with the raspbian toolchain and -9 came straight from Debian which would be some kind of explanation right, everything in raspbian gets recompiled, there is not enough information in that bug report to know if he was using the Debian built -8 or the raspbian built -8. plugwash: it would be the most logical explanation though, that the failing - 8 version he had installed came from raspbian and not debian otherwise I'm completely out of idea why -8 did not work and -9 did <--snip--> plugwash: the user confirmed that -8 was installed from raspbian directly