OR will not launch on spanned monitors unless windowed (1.2.3766, Cheyenne)

[John Maruszak]

I am an MS Insider on build #16288.1 version 1709. Since this latest update,the ONLY way I can run Open Rails 1.2.3766 (I even tried the Unstable version X3951) is in WINDOWED MODE. If I de-select windowed mode, the program crashes with the message that OPEN RAILS ACTIVITY RUNNER HAS STOPPED WORKING. DEBUG / CLOSE. And Microsoft will check to find out why it stopped working.
ACTUALLY, the only apparent cause is that the latest driver update from NVIDIA somehow messed-up the spanning mode.
                             Driver Provider: NVIDIA
                             Driver Date: 09/03/2017
                             Driver Version: 23.21.13.8768
                           This is a Digitally Signed Driver

I proved that by reverting back to 2 single-monitor displays, where OR only appears in 1 of the windows. It ran fine in this mode UNWINDOWED. When changed back to spanned monitors, get the same error as noted.
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I am also reporting this issue to NVIDIA as well as Microsoft ...
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Here is the text/log of my latest run of OR WITH THE WINDOWED MODE SELECTED:

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This is a log file for Open Rails. Please include this file in bug reports.
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Date/time = 09/17/2017 16:13:48 (2017-09-17 20:13:48Z)
BIOS = Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG (Award Software International, Inc.)
Processor = Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 threads, 4 cores, 3.7 GHz) (Internal Cache 64 KB) (External Cache 8192 KB)
Memory = 32.0 GB

Warning: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at ORTS.Common.SystemInfo.WriteEnvironment(TextWriter output) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\ORTS.Common\SystemInfo.cs:line 77
   at ORTS.Common.SystemInfo.WriteSystemDetails(TextWriter output) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\ORTS.Common\SystemInfo.cs:line 36
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.InitLogging(UserSettings settings, String[] args, Boolean appendLog) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 659
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.<>c__DisplayClass8.<Load>b__3() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 148
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 190
  at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\LoaderProcess.cs:line 158 at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\LoaderProcess.cs:line 138
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\LoaderProcess.cs:line 109
   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object state)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

Display = \\.\DISPLAY1 (3840 x 1080, 32-bit, primary, 0 x 0)
Sound = NVIDIA High Definition Audio (nvhda64v 1.3.34.27)
Sound = Realtek High Definition Audio (rtkvhd64 6.0.1.7404)
Sound = NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM) (nvvad64v 3.90.1.0)
Disk = C: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 488.5 GB, 189.4 GB free)
Disk = D: (CD-ROM Disc, )
Disk = E: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 111.8 GB, 111.0 GB free)
Disk = G: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = H: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = I: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = J: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 3725.9 GB, 2593.9 GB free)
Disk = K: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = L: (Removable Disk, FAT32, 14.5 GB, 12.0 GB free)
OS = Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0.16288)
Runtimes = 2.0.50727 SP2 3.0 SP2 3.5 SP1 4 Client 4 Full 4.0 Client
Runtime = 2.0.50727.8825 (32bit)
\\.\DISPLAY1 = NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (nvldumd.dll 23.21.13.8768)
    Anisotropy = 16 Render Targets = 4
    Streams = 16 (stride 255)
    Textures = 8 (16384 x 16384, repeat 8192, ratio 16384)
    Points = 8192^2
    Volumes = 2048^3
    Primitives = 16777215
    Vertexes = 16777215
    Vertex Shader = 3.0 (4096 slots, 256 constants)
    Pixel Shader = 3.0 (4096 slots)
    Clip Planes = 8
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Version = 1.2.3766
Build = 0.0.6231.39157 (2017-01-22 21:45:14Z)
Logfile = C:\Users\KLAA2\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
Executable = RunActivity.exe
Argument = -start
Argument = -explorer
Argument = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\Cheyenne\PATHS\SH01.pat
Argument = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\TRAINS\CONSISTS\Burlington 1949 Zephyr.con
Argument = 12:00
Argument = 1
Argument = 0
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AdhesionFactor = 130
AdhesionFactorChange = 10
AdhesionMovingAverageFilterSize = 10
AdhesionProportionalToWeather = False
Alerter = False
AlerterDisableExternal = True
Autopilot = (user set) True
AuxActionEnabled = False
AvatarURL = http://openrails.org/images/support-logos.jpg
BrakePipeChargingRate = (user set) 40
BreakCouplers = False
Cab2DStretch = 0
CarVibratingLevel = (user set) 3
CircularSpeedGauge = False
ConditionalLoadOfNightTextures = (user set) True
CorrectQuestionableBrakingParams = (user set) True
CurveResistanceSpeedDependent = False
CurveSpeedDependent = False
DataLogger = False
DataLoggerSeparator = comma
DataLogMisc = False
DataLogPerformance = True
DataLogPhysics = False
DataLogSpeedUnits = route
DataLogStart = False
DataLogStationStops = False
DataLogTrainSpeed = False
DataLogTSContents = 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
DataLogTSInterval = 10
DayAmbientLight = 20
DisableTCSScripts = False
DistantMountains = True
DistantMountainsViewingDistance = (user set) 75000
DoubleWire = False
DynamicShadows = (user set) True
ExtendedAIShunting = False
FastFullScreenAltTab = False
FullScreen = False
GraduatedRelease = False
HotStart = True
Language =
LODBias = 0
LODViewingExtention = False
Logging = True
LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
LoggingPath = C:\Users\KLAA2\Desktop
Menu_Selection = (user set) C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator, C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\Cheyenne, , C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\TRAINS\TRAINSET\3DTrains_Cal_Zephyr_CBQ\AUnit_CBQ_9960A.eng, C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\TRAINS\CONSISTS\Burlington 1949 Zephyr.con, C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\Cheyenne\PATHS\SH01.pat, 12:00, 1, 0
ModelInstancing = False
MSTSBINSound = True
Multiplayer = False
Multiplayer_Host = 127.0.0.1
Multiplayer_Port = 30000
Multiplayer_UpdateInterval = 10
Multiplayer_User = KLAA2
MultiplayerClient = False
MultiplayerServer = False
NoForcedRedAtStationStops = (user set) True
OverrideNonElectrifiedRoutes = (user set) True
PerformanceTuner = (user set) True
PerformanceTunerTarget = (user set) 35
PrecipitationBoxHeight = 100
PrecipitationBoxLength = 500
PrecipitationBoxWidth = 500
PreferDDSTexture = False
PressureUnit = Automatic
Profiling = False
ProfilingFrameCount = 0
ProfilingTime = 0
ReplayPauseBeforeEnd = True
ReplayPauseBeforeEndS = 0
RetainersOnAllCars = False
ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\KLAA2\Pictures\Open Rails
ShaderModel = 3
ShadowAllShapes = False
ShadowMapBlur = True
ShadowMapCount = 4
ShadowMapDistance = 2500
ShadowMapResolution = 1024
ShowAvatar = False
ShowErrorDialogs = True
SignalLightGlow = False
SoundDetailLevel = 5
SoundVolumePercent = 100
SpeedControl = (user set) False
SuperElevationGauge = 1435
SuperElevationMinLen = 50
SuppressConfirmations = False
SuppressShapeWarnings = True
TunnelResistanceDependent = False
Units = Automatic
UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
UseLargeAddressAware = (user set) False
UseLocationPassingPaths = False
UseMSTSEnv = False
UseSuperElevation = 0
VerticalSync = False
ViewDispatcher = False
ViewingDistance = (user set) 5000
ViewingFOV = 45
WindowGlass = False
WindowPosition_Activity = (user set) 60, 50
WindowPosition_CarOperations = (user set) 3, 91
WindowPosition_Compass = 50, 0
WindowPosition_ComposeMessage = 50, 50
WindowPosition_DriverAid = 100, 100
WindowPosition_Help = (user set) 73, 53
WindowPosition_NextStation = 0, 100
WindowPosition_Quit = 50, 50
WindowPosition_Switch = (user set) 56, 72
WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = (user set) 53, 99
WindowPosition_TrainList = 100, 0
WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (user set) 1, 98
WindowSize = (user set) 3840x1080
Wire = True
WorldObjectDensity = 10
YoungestFailedToRestore = 0
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Mode = explorer
Route = Cheyenne
Path = SH01 (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\Cheyenne\PATHS\SH01.pat)
Consist = Burlington 1949 Zephyr (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\TRAINS\CONSISTS\Burlington 1949 Zephyr.con)
Time = 12:00:00 (12:00)
Season = Summer (1)
Weather = Clear (0)
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Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB

Warning: Track node 1617 pin 0 has invalid link to track node 0 in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\Cheyenne\Cheyenne.rdb:line 13538

 CARSPAWN SIGSCR sWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Warning: When expecting a number, we found a ) marker. Using the default 1 in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\3DTrains_Cal_Zephyr_CBQ\AUnit_CBQ_9960A.eng:line 48

Warning: When expecting a number, we found a ) marker. Using the default 1 in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\3DTrains_Cal_Zephyr_CBQ\AUnit_CBQ_9960C.eng:line 48

Warning: Access to the path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\Cheyenne\Cheyenne.tdb' is denied. Cannot get MD5 check of TDB file, use NA instead but server may not connect you.

 ENV SIGCFG SIGCFG TTYPE

Information: Allocation for 49,999 particles:

      7,999,840 B RAM vertex data
      1,199,976 B RAM index data (temporary)
      7,999,840 B VRAM DynamicVertexBuffer
      1,199,976 B VRAM IndexBuffer

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Information: Game.ReplaceState(GameStateViewer3D) GameStateViewer3D

Loader: Time = 00:00:27.3646379 ms
Loader: Expected = 159,606,193 bytes
Loader: Actual = 249,961,513 bytes
Loader: Difference = 90,355,320 bytes (56.6 %)

SSSSSSSS

Information: Game.PopState()

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if i change to NOT windowed mode, program closes with error stating

[John Maruszak (veloklaatu)]

Downloaded and installed OLDER NVIDIA Driver Version #22.21.13.8541 from NVIDIA dated 08/21/2017 also is compatible and WHQL certified and OR works perfectly UNWINDOWED again!!!!

NVIDIA file #385.41-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql

I guess this resolves this issue, sorry to take up your time. I should have tried that first.

[John Maruszak (veloklaatu)]

Well, that having been said, today I downloaded a new file of a route from Train-Sim.com - can99v301.zip and can99v302.zip - the latest iteration of the * CN Blackfoot Subdivision *
* Route for Microsoft Train Simulator /Open Rails *.

Upon launch after download and extraction, I get an immediate error in OR - please see attached screenshot of error text.

And this actually references the Microsoft XNA Framework as a cause of failure to load/run through OR. On a unit running MSTS, there is NO ERROR in MSTS - only occurs when running in OR.

LOG FILE:
This is a log file for Open Rails. Please include this file in bug reports.
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Date/time = 09/18/2017 21:22:12 (2017-09-19 01:22:12Z)
BIOS = Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG (Award Software International, Inc.)
Processor = Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 threads, 4 cores, 3.7 GHz) (Internal Cache 64 KB) (External Cache 8192 KB)
Memory = 32.0 GB

Warning: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at ORTS.Common.SystemInfo.WriteEnvironment(TextWriter output) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\ORTS.Common\SystemInfo.cs:line 77
   at ORTS.Common.SystemInfo.WriteSystemDetails(TextWriter output) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\ORTS.Common\SystemInfo.cs:line 36
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.InitLogging(UserSettings settings, String[] args, Boolean appendLog) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 659
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.<>c__DisplayClass8.<Load>b__3() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 148
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 190
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\LoaderProcess.cs:line 158
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\LoaderProcess.cs:line 138
   at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Processes\LoaderProcess.cs:line 109
   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object state)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

Display = \\.\DISPLAY1 (3840 x 1080, 32-bit, primary, 0 x 0)
Sound = NVIDIA High Definition Audio (nvhda64v 1.3.34.27)
Sound = Realtek High Definition Audio (rtkvhd64 6.0.1.7404)
Sound = NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM) (nvvad64v 3.90.1.0)
Disk = C: (Loc...

[John Maruszak (veloklaatu)]

1.) By reverting to an OLDER NVIDIA driver (August 2017) the spanning/windowed issue has been avoided.
2.) The issue with the file of a route from Train-Sim.com - can99v301.zip and can99v302.zip - the latest iteration of the * CN Blackfoot Subdivision *
 * Route for Microsoft Train Simulator /Open Rails *.
Has apparently also been resolved by applying the "FIX" found in the TS Forum - using the original route (can99) TERRTEX folder instead of the newer one.

I thank you for your caring response and again, please consider these issues fixed.