System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException at Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.UpdateRouteActions (X3815, Conn River Route, ConnRiv_RUT_RX-2, crash after TCS emergency brake application)

[Derek Morton]

I had overrun a waiting point and went through a red light.
I went to manual to reset the emergency brake application.
I set back to get behind the red light.
The waiting point came back.
I braked to a stop.

bang

[Carlo Santucci (carlosanit1)]

Hm, OR believes you passed also a reversal point. Is it so? Were you on manual or on auto mode when you braked to the final stop?

[Carlo Santucci (carlosanit1)]

Was it an absolute or a standard waiting point?

[Derek Morton (derek-a)]

My bad wording,

I passed a reversal point, yes.

On 8/03/2017 4:52, Carlo Santucci wrote:
> Hm, OR believes you passed also a reversal point. Is it so? Were you on
> manual or on auto mode when you braked to the final stop?
>

[Derek Morton (derek-a)]

I don't know how to tell them apart.

On 8/03/2017 4:53, Carlo Santucci wrote:
> Was it an absolute or a standard waiting point?
>

[Carlo Santucci (carlosanit1)]

So there wasn't a waiting point, but a reversal point. I'll try to reproduce the issue.

[Derek Morton (derek-a)]

auto mode

Cheers
Derek

On 8 March 2017 at 04:52, Carlo Santucci <email address hidden> wrote:

> Hm, OR believes you passed also a reversal point. Is it so? Were you on
> manual or on auto mode when you braked to the final stop?
>
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670581
>
> Title:
> x3815 crash after tcs emergency brake application
>
> Status in Open Rails:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> I had overrun a waiting point and went through a red light.
> I went to manual to reset the emergency brake application.
> I set back to get behind the red light.
> The waiting point came back.
> I braked to a stop.
>
> bang
>
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[Carlo Santucci (carlosanit1)]

I have created this activity: path has a reversal point before a signal, which stays at red.
Train starts, passes the signal and goes into TCSEmergency Braking. I pass to manual and reverse until I have again the red signal in front of me. At this point I pass to auto mode and stop the train. The train correctly catches the reversal point. No crash.
Also if I first stop the train and pass to auto mode I get no crash and the train catches the reversal point.
Is there some difference with your activity and your operation? Is the reversal point after the signal? Is there also a waiting point?

[Derek Morton (derek-a)]

The reverse point is before the signal.
When I go very slow, the reverse point disappears before the red signal.
I have tried to replicate the issue, but cannot.

If you wish to close the call, its ok by me.

On 8/03/2017 9:01, Carlo Santucci wrote:
> I have created this activity: path has a reversal point before a signal, which stays at red.
> Train starts, passes the signal and goes into TCSEmergency Braking. I pass to manual and reverse until I have again the red signal in front of me. At this point I pass to auto mode and stop the train. The train correctly catches the reversal point. No crash.
> Also if I first stop the train and pass to auto mode I get no crash and the train catches the reversal point.
> Is there some difference with your activity and your operation? Is the reversal point after the signal? Is there also a waiting point?
>

[Carlo Santucci (carlosanit1)]

I'm not able to replicate the issue either.
However I'll leave it open, because it's still an unresolved bug, even if not systematic.
Thanks for support.

[Derek Morton (derek-a)]

more than welcome for your support

On 8/03/2017 19:01, Carlo Santucci wrote:
> I'm not able to replicate the issue either.
> However I'll leave it open, because it's still an unresolved bug, even if not systematic.
> Thanks for support.
>

[Derek Morton (derek-a)]

cannot reproduce the bug