Messaging server in OpenStack Installation Guide

[Andrew Hume]

the page references that rabbitmq and zeromq alternatives are available.
it should document, or at least point to documents, how to do those alternatives.

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Built: 2014-03-18T18:59:08 00:00
git SHA: b4f5cdc33b9248aa9c9768e2deccbc3a1a04cc3f
URL: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-queue.html
source File: file:/home/jenkins/workspace/openstack-install-deploy-guide-fedora/doc/install-guide/ch_basics.xml
xml:id: basics-queue

[Matt Kassawara (ionosphere80)]

In general, RHEL-style distributions tend to focus on Qpid while the others focus on RabbitMQ. You can reference the installation guide for other distributions if you want to implement their AMQP services.

[Andrew Hume (andr4w)]

this doesn’t help.

i am quite familiar, for example, with zeromq and yet would have no idea
what to install. what i would hope this text would say at least is something like
“there are alternative implementations, such as rabbitmq-based XYZ
or zeromq-based ABC” so that people can google for XYZ or ABC.

On Mar 26, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Matt Kassawara <email address hidden> wrote:

> In general, RHEL-style distributions tend to focus on Qpid while the
> others focus on RabbitMQ. You can reference the installation guide for
> other distributions if you want to implement their AMQP services.
>
> ** Changed in: openstack-manuals
> Status: New => Invalid
>
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>
> Title:
> Messaging server in OpenStack Installation Guide
>
> Status in OpenStack Manuals:
> Invalid
>
> Bug description:
> the page references that rabbitmq and zeromq alternatives are available.
> it should document, or at least point to documents, how to do those alternatives.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Built: 2014-03-18T18:59:08 00:00
> git SHA: b4f5cdc33b9248aa9c9768e2deccbc3a1a04cc3f
> URL: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-queue.html
> source File: file:/home/jenkins/workspace/openstack-install-deploy-guide-fedora/doc/install-guide/ch_basics.xml
> xml:id: basics-queue
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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Andrew Hume
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732-420-0907 (NJ)
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[Matt Kassawara (ionosphere80)]

For reasons beyond my understanding, some distributions chose to validate their OpenStack packages using a specific AMQP service... none of which include ZeroMQ. Primarily aimed at first-time users building test environments, the installation guide only covers the recommended AMQP service for a particular distribution. In the case of RHEL, the guide covers Qpid and simply mentions RabbitMQ and ZeroMQ. Would creating links to external documentation for alternative AMQP services resolve this issue?

[Andrew Hume (andr4w)]

yes.
thanks

On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Matt Kassawara <email address hidden> wrote:

> For reasons beyond my understanding, some distributions chose to
> validate their OpenStack packages using a specific AMQP service... none
> of which include ZeroMQ. Primarily aimed at first-time users building
> test environments, the installation guide only covers the recommended
> AMQP service for a particular distribution. In the case of RHEL, the
> guide covers Qpid and simply mentions RabbitMQ and ZeroMQ. Would
> creating links to external documentation for alternative AMQP services
> resolve this issue?
>
> ** Changed in: openstack-manuals
> Status: Invalid => Opinion
>
> ** Changed in: openstack-manuals
> Assignee: (unassigned) => Matt Kassawara (ionosphere80)
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1298153
>
> Title:
> Messaging server in OpenStack Installation Guide
>
> Status in OpenStack Manuals:
> Opinion
>
> Bug description:
> the page references that rabbitmq and zeromq alternatives are available.
> it should document, or at least point to documents, how to do those alternatives.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Built: 2014-03-18T18:59:08 00:00
> git SHA: b4f5cdc33b9248aa9c9768e2deccbc3a1a04cc3f
> URL: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-queue.html
> source File: file:/home/jenkins/workspace/openstack-install-deploy-guide-fedora/doc/install-guide/ch_basics.xml
> xml:id: basics-queue
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1298153/+subscriptions
>

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Andrew Hume
949-707-1964 (VO and best)
732-420-0907 (NJ)
<email address hidden>

[Matt Kassawara (ionosphere80)]

Will do!

[Andrew Hume (andr4w)]

thanks

On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Matt Kassawara <email address hidden> wrote:

> Will do!
>
> ** Changed in: openstack-manuals
> Status: Opinion => Triaged
>
> ** Changed in: openstack-manuals
> Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
>
> ** Changed in: openstack-manuals
> Milestone: None => icehouse
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1298153
>
> Title:
> Messaging server in OpenStack Installation Guide
>
> Status in OpenStack Manuals:
> Triaged
>
> Bug description:
> the page references that rabbitmq and zeromq alternatives are available.
> it should document, or at least point to documents, how to do those alternatives.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Built: 2014-03-18T18:59:08 00:00
> git SHA: b4f5cdc33b9248aa9c9768e2deccbc3a1a04cc3f
> URL: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-queue.html
> source File: file:/home/jenkins/workspace/openstack-install-deploy-guide-fedora/doc/install-guide/ch_basics.xml
> xml:id: basics-queue
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1298153/+subscriptions
>

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Andrew Hume
949-707-1964 (VO and best)
732-420-0907 (NJ)
<email address hidden>

[Openstack Gerrit (openstack-gerrit)]

Fix proposed to branch: master
Review: https://review.openstack.org/88489

[Openstack Gerrit (openstack-gerrit)]

Reviewed: https://review.openstack.org/88489
Committed: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/commit/?id=09e1b316f8b304915d9ad4868cb871119f022412
Submitter: Jenkins
Branch: master

commit 09e1b316f8b304915d9ad4868cb871119f022412
Author: Matt Kassawara <email address hidden>
Date: Thu Apr 17 21:45:07 2014 -0600

    Improved messaging server section

    I improved the messaging server section including structure and
    content to meet conventions. I also added links to each message
    broker for those who may consider using a different message broker
    than the one supported by their particular distribution.

    Change-Id: Ic046ae7ceee315a9da91f8530542c2e0cb3a66f9
    Closes-Bug: #1309304
    Closes-Bug: #1298153

[OpenStack Infra (hudson-openstack)]

This issue was fixed in the openstack/openstack-manuals 15.0.0 release.