[upstream] [hardy] Presentation slide names lost when saving in PowerPoint (ppt) format

[Steve Somers]

Binary package hint: openoffice.org

OpenOffice.org Presentation v2.4.0
openoffice.org-core1:2.4.0-3ubuntu6, Tue Apr 22, 02:27:09 UTC 2008
Hardy Heron 8.04

1) Create new presentation with several slides.
2) Name some or all slides from the default of 'Slide n' to any text string.
3) Save as Microsoft Powerpoint 97/2000/XP .ppt format, and quit Impress.
4) Launch Impress and open presentation.
5) All slides have reverted to 'Slide n' names.

This does NOT happen when saved as .odp file.

Slide names imported from an original Powerpoint file are displayed correctly, but lost as above if re-saved after editing.

I would be happy to run any tests if that is helpful.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Wed May 21 08:12:34 2008
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04
NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx
Package: openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.0-3ubuntu6
PackageArchitecture: i386
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=/usr/lib/openoffice/program:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
 LANG=C
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: openoffice.org
Uname: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686

[Billk-s (billk-s)]

OO ver 1.02, no ver 1.02 in issuezilla dialogs!

Open presentation in ppt format, edits ok, save back to ppt format

powerpoint page numbers on slide master do *NOT* work in OO, and OO's (inserted
as a field) pagenumbers stay fixed at 1 when saved as ppt.
Loses text on tabs (becomes slide 1, slide 2 etc.)

Show stopper for me as I am editing anothers ppt presentations, and OO formats
(which work fine) are not permitted.

[Billk-s (billk-s)]

Badly worded! I should have said that when a ppt format pres is loaded
into OO for the first time, all work fine. If saved as a ppt, both OO
and PowerPoint lose the page numbering on the master slide, and the
slide names are not visible in OO.

Loading back into PowerPoint and resaving gets the slide names back,
but not the page numbering.

BillK

[Wolframgarten (wolframgarten)]

Reassigned to Christian.

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

*** Issue 12336 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

set to new.

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

Please write only 1 bug per issue.

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

The first item is a known bug which is fixed in the OOo1.1Beta.

The second part of the bug can't be fixed because PPT have no marker
tabs therefore we can't export the names of the slides (the names on
the marker tabs.)

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

I close the issue.

[Billk-s (billk-s)]

I cannot see the reasoning for this. Does not powerpoint have name
attached to a slide, and does not OO have a name attached to a slide?
 The slide name IS visible if you open a powerpoint, it exports to
html OK once opened, but its *LOST* when you save and reopen as ppt.
The keyword here is SAVE. So it seems to me OO has a bug in that it
is losing information when you save as powerpoint. The fact that you
do not have an internal mechanism to handle the information is part of
the bug, not a reason to close and dismiss it!

BillK

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

Hi sven

Please give a comment to this behaviour.

Christian

[Sven-jacobi (sven-jacobi)]

Your problem with the page numbering field has been fixed. The other
problem can't be fixed, because I think there is no possibility in
PowerPoint to name a page, instead all slide names are a result of an
automatism that takes the content of each title. Thus means the file
format of PowerPoint is not designed to store such names, and this is
sorry to say, a little information lost if saving from OO to PPT.

[Billk-s (billk-s)]

If this is the case, why does OO read the titles in correctly if a
file is saved from PP, but after being saved fron OO in ppt format,
they are lost?

If I string the ppt file (saved from PP), there is a section called
"Slide Titles" which is not present in the OO saved file, which is
smaller in size no editing done). Below is a section cut&pasted from
a "vi -b PP_FILE.ppt". The actual titles appear to be before "Slide
Title" words.

________________________________________________________

[Sven-jacobi (sven-jacobi)]

Yes, you are right, the slide names are saved in the
"DocumentSummaryInformation" stream of a PPT document, but it does not
have any effect if you store names in there, because after
loading/saving in PowerPoint, there will always be the slide name
generated by the automatism. Try it and change the name in a hex
editor, the name is not persistend and will be removed the next time
you are editing the file in PowerPoint.

[Billk-s (billk-s)]

But then what is the mechanism where OO reads the slide names in a PP
generated file, but not in an OO one? Agreed that PP is regenerating
them, but OO must be reading something in the first place, that is
lost when OO saves the file.

[Sven-jacobi (sven-jacobi)]

It comes, because we try to read the names of the
DocumentSummaryStream - So you have convinced me, our export should
also store these names. I will reopen this bug, and and implement this
enhancement for OOo2.0.

[Sven-jacobi (sven-jacobi)]

changed owner

[Sven-jacobi (sven-jacobi)]

changed to enhancement

[Sven-jacobi (sven-jacobi)]

.

[Marc-neumann (marc-neumann)]

"According to the OpenOffice.org roadmap
(http://tools.openoffice.org/releases) this issue was retargeted to
OOo Later."

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

*** Issue 27617 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

*** Issue 27581 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

[Christian-guenther-v (christian-guenther-v)]

Please have also a look to issue 27581.
It's duplicate to this one.

[Mseitz-2 (mseitz-2)]

Would someone please change the summary to something like "Presentation slide
names lost when saving in PowerPoint (ppt) format"? I had trouble finding this
issue because the summary doesn't mention anything about slide names.

[Sven-jacobi (sven-jacobi)]

changed title

[Y-ian-f (y-ian-f)]

This is a PITA when dealing with M$-dependent sites. You open the PPT and they
look fine, you save it, re-open and boom! All the slide names are GONE.

It's not like PPT97 is a new format, after all... :-)

[Björn Michaelsen (bjoern-michaelsen)]

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There are no new official OpenOffice.org releases in Ubuntu packaging anymore => Won't Fix

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Please leave references to upstream OpenOffice.org bugs in place to allow cross pollination.

[Mkrcds (mkrcds)]

*** Issue 128139 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***