Comment 225 for bug 1160365

@fabien: thanks for this comment, you're right, this is not a war ! we try
to find solutions, to propose and test, and to say that for us, partner is
different from contact (but can live in same table), and partner is the
only one mandatory key you can have on a business object/document. We can
be wrong and we can have divergence .. that's opensource :)

I've questions, if we (or some other people) want to have clean partner_id
and contact_id semantic différence, do you think we can live together with
the official version ?

Do you think we can have roadmap and documentation of futur new features ?

Now, I think you should have say:

Partners, community members, strong motivated guys, we decide to implement
a new way for managing contact, partner etc .. Here is what we choose at
     - 1 ....
     - 2.....
     - ....

In X month you will have to check all your modules and modify them to be
compatible with the futur version of OpenERP, and you can test it here to
validate your modules, customers instance etc ....

If you want have editor role, think we have to work together and have small
newsletter (technical newsletter, not marketing) to now what will be the
futur ... have discution (not war ;) ). For such a big change, I think we
must prepare our customer with docs, training, migration cost if needed ..
and not after three month of release ?

last, if you decide not to include this branch to openERP (it's your right,
no problem), I think we will have some modules that will be compatible and
some not. Don't know what branch partners prefer to follow, but maybe a
survey / vote can be done just to have an idea ?

My 2 cents,

Nicolas JEUDY

Expert Technique et Fonctionnel Système d'Information

22 rue du seminaire - 25170 Pelousey
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2013/4/18 Fabien (Open ERP) <email address hidden>

> On 04/17/2013 12:31 PM, Luc De Meyer (Noviat) wrote:
> > I don't think we should abandon the war since either this issue gets
> > fixed by a solution that is acceptable for the community of partners and
> > customers or otherwise the community will migrate to other solutions or
> > start a new fork. I don't think this is what we want to happen.
> I am shocked by that kind of attitude.
> It's not a war.
> It's not even a fight.
> It's not about supporting one person or one company.
> I hope people are smart enough to not enter in such a game.
> It's just a technical disagreement on how to implement a solution.
> Once every year, we have such a bug that create such a big discussion,
> some misunderstandings and fears. Its not that much as we process ~6000
> bugs per year (<0.1%).
> It's normal to have such active discussions as we are all passionate
> about what we do and most of the persons on this list do their life on
> OpenERP. For me, it's just mean that we do care about OpenERP, a strong
> sign of motivation.
> Having said that, I may understand that our strict merge proposal/code
> review process may frustrate some persons. It's boring as it requires
> more effort from everyone: to test, to convince, to develop. But being
> strict on accepting only quality code in OpenERP is important for the
> future.
> We think that what have been proposed may seriously break OpenERP,
> that's why we don't want to merge it in the core. But if you want, you
> can just do a community module for it. I just hope people listen when
> So, please test deeply and make your own judgment. The different
> solutions are independant (Olivier Dony fixed some bugs, Raphael want to
> add another layer on top of what Olivier did)
> We manage OpenERP like Linus Torvald manages Linux. If Linux dodn't like
> something, it will not be pushed into the core, no matter how many
> people cry. A lot of people tried to fight against Linux, but at the end
> the quality of the kernel is better because of him.
> Thanks,
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